Quotegutterfax="gutterfax"by tardis?
It makes no difference.....the issue is that THERE WAS NO NEED TO LEAVE THE STOOP IN THE FIRST PLACE AND ANY SUPPOSED SAVINGS IN RENT HAVE BEEN NEGATED IN GIVING UP ALL REVENUS STREAMS TO THE NEW LANDLORD.
I really fail to see how hard this is to comprehend for some fans
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Goodness me you are so REPETITIVE and DULL and worst of all you CANT APPEAR TO MOVE ON. You know as much as the rest of us about the facts behind the move ie NOTHING.
QuotePC Plum="PC Plum" You know as much as the rest of us about the facts behind the move ie NOTHING.'"
Nothing eh?
Here's some figures I do know.....feel free to jump in at any stage to say that they are not accurate....
Match day costs at the stoop:
2008 = £349,499
2009 = £348,145
2010 = £264,873
2011 = £242,524
2012 = £222,244
Now...we told Quins RU we were off at the end of 2012 but had to back track sharpish when no other landlord would have us. Was it the massive increase in rent that made us want to leave? Funny that considering our match day costs had dropped 35% over 5 seasons?
...I tell you what though, in the same period, our admin costs, excluding marketing costs had risen 32% to £532,016.
So the rent went down, the admin costs went up...the name change failed so who was to blame? Ah, the Landlord
For the record, Ticket and match day revenue in 2012 was £321,000 in 2012......so we've given that up, to save on match day costs of £222,244......basically the only part of the club that was actually profitable
Tell me you don't agree with me if you like, but don't accuse me of not knowing what I am talking about when it comes to the cluterf*ck this club has become.......we haven't announced ticket prices because the LANDLORD HASN'T TOLD US HOW MUCH HE WANTS TO CHARGE FANS YET
Here's some figures I do know.....feel free to jump in at any stage to say that they are not accurate....
Match day costs at the stoop:
2008 = £349,499
2009 = £348,145
2010 = £264,873
2011 = £242,524
2012 = £222,244
Now...we told Quins RU we were off at the end of 2012 but had to back track sharpish when no other landlord would have us. Was it the massive increase in rent that made us want to leave? Funny that considering our match day costs had dropped 35% over 5 seasons?
...I tell you what though, in the same period, our admin costs, excluding marketing costs had risen 32% to £532,016.
So the rent went down, the admin costs went up...the name change failed so who was to blame? Ah, the Landlord
For the record, Ticket and match day revenue in 2012 was £321,000 in 2012......so we've given that up, to save on match day costs of £222,244......basically the only part of the club that was actually profitable
Tell me you don't agree with me if you like, but don't accuse me of not knowing what I am talking about when it comes to the cluterf*ck this club has become.......we haven't announced ticket prices because the LANDLORD HASN'T TOLD US HOW MUCH HE WANTS TO CHARGE FANS YET
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Blah blah blah!
I'm sure all that makes perfect sense to somewhere who cares.
But some of us just care about having a team to watch, no matter how badly run they seem to be.
Alex Foster, 20, Thomas Minns and James Duckworth, both 19, made their Super League debuts last season for the Rhinos and agreed long term contracts at Headingley Carnegie last year.
Second row Foster joined the Rhinos from Wetherby Bulldogs and scored his first try for Leeds in their win at the Broncos last season, going on to make a total of nine appearances. Winger James Duckworth joined the Rhinos from Whinmoor Warriors and made two appearances last season, scoring a try in the win at Wakefield. Thomas Minns, also from Whinmoor, made three senior appearances in 2013, scoring on his debut against Castleford.
Broncos head coach Tony Rea said: "It's important to note that we had identified them and been asking for a few months. We'd watched their debuts and watched their performances last year. They were players we wanted around here."
Commenting on the move, Rhinos Head Coach Brian McDermott said, "This is a great opportunity for all three players. Last season they showed their potential with Alex Foster in particular becoming a regular in our side on merit because of his performances. They have trained well in pre-season with us and the move to London is a chance for them to be regularly involved in a first team environment.
"We hope all three players will have a bright future with the Rhinos and this move is a chance for them have a different life experience, away from home and all the challenges that that brings with it. A number of our current first team squad spent time away from the club on loan in their early years, including Ben Jones-Bishop who also had a year down in London, and I am sure Alex, Thomas and James will make the most of this chance."
We probably have the most youthful team in the SL with these 3....
Alex Foster, 20, Thomas Minns and James Duckworth, both 19, made their Super League debuts last season for the Rhinos and agreed long term contracts at Headingley Carnegie last year.
Second row Foster joined the Rhinos from Wetherby Bulldogs and scored his first try for Leeds in their win at the Broncos last season, going on to make a total of nine appearances. Winger James Duckworth joined the Rhinos from Whinmoor Warriors and made two appearances last season, scoring a try in the win at Wakefield. Thomas Minns, also from Whinmoor, made three senior appearances in 2013, scoring on his debut against Castleford.
Broncos head coach Tony Rea said: "It's important to note that we had identified them and been asking for a few months. We'd watched their debuts and watched their performances last year. They were players we wanted around here."
Commenting on the move, Rhinos Head Coach Brian McDermott said, "This is a great opportunity for all three players. Last season they showed their potential with Alex Foster in particular becoming a regular in our side on merit because of his performances. They have trained well in pre-season with us and the move to London is a chance for them to be regularly involved in a first team environment.
"We hope all three players will have a bright future with the Rhinos and this move is a chance for them have a different life experience, away from home and all the challenges that that brings with it. A number of our current first team squad spent time away from the club on loan in their early years, including Ben Jones-Bishop who also had a year down in London, and I am sure Alex, Thomas and James will make the most of this chance."
Quotegutterfax="gutterfax"by tardis?
It makes no difference.....the issue is that THERE WAS NO NEED TO LEAVE THE STOOP IN THE FIRST PLACE AND ANY SUPPOSED SAVINGS IN RENT HAVE BEEN NEGATED IN GIVING UP ALL REVENUS STREAMS TO THE NEW LANDLORD.
I really fail to see how hard this is to comprehend for some fans
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Firstly I am not a London supporter so I would say my view is not biasd.
So do London not get any revenue streams at all i.e. season tickets sales,match day income shirt sales, bar takings etc, but have to pay the players contracts,admin staff etc in return for not paying stadium rent.
If so sounds even crazier than the Eddie Stobart deal and thats saying something.
Here's some figures I do know.....feel free to jump in at any stage to say that they are not accurate....
Match day costs at the stoop:
2008 = £349,499
2009 = £348,145
2010 = £264,873
2011 = £242,524
2012 = £222,244
Now...we told Quins RU we were off at the end of 2012 but had to back track sharpish when no other landlord would have us. Was it the massive increase in rent that made us want to leave? Funny that considering our match day costs had dropped 35% over 5 seasons?
...I tell you what though, in the same period, our admin costs, excluding marketing costs had risen 32% to £532,016.
So the rent went down, the admin costs went up...the name change failed so who was to blame? Ah, the Landlord
For the record, Ticket and match day revenue in 2012 was £321,000 in 2012......so we've given that up, to save on match day costs of £222,244......basically the only part of the club that was actually profitable
Tell me you don't agree with me if you like, but don't accuse me of not knowing what I am talking about when it comes to the cluterf*ck this club has become.......we haven't announced ticket prices because the LANDLORD HASN'T TOLD US HOW MUCH HE WANTS TO CHARGE FANS YET
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I think the way the club has been mis managed over a number of years has been diabolical.
I think the apparent lack of a long term strategy from the top is diabolical.
I think the standard of players, the coaching and the on field performances over the last two or three years have been diabolical.
I think since the shambolic and downright incompetent actions of the club since the end of the 2013 season have been diabolical.
I think the way the fans have been treated, not just over the last few months but over a prolonged period of time has been diabolical.
I think the fact I know nothing about the decision making process that landed us at the Hive is hugely disappointing but possibly understandable.
I don’t need facts and figures to back any of the above statements up, they all speak for themselves.
So, on the basis of the above anyone would think I would clear off to a less complex club – Oxford, Skolars, Hemel all fit the bill – and maintain my rugby league fix.
But London Broncos are in my blood, I am a fan, I am a supporter. I will not be taken for a mug, but I will be there to give them my support.
I live in the firm belief rugby league in the Capital can work and my great hope is for it to work. London Broncos are the best hope for this to become a reality.
QuotePC Plum="PC Plum"I think the way the club has been mis managed over a number of years has been diabolical.
I think the apparent lack of a long term strategy from the top is diabolical.
I think the standard of players, the coaching and the on field performances over the last two or three years have been diabolical.
I think since the shambolic and downright incompetent actions of the club since the end of the 2013 season have been diabolical.
I think the way the fans have been treated, not just over the last few months but over a prolonged period of time has been diabolical.
I think the fact I know nothing about the decision making process that landed us at the Hive is hugely disappointing but possibly understandable.
I don’t need facts and figures to back any of the above statements up, they all speak for themselves.
So, on the basis of the above anyone would think I would clear off to a less complex club – Oxford, Skolars, Hemel all fit the bill – and maintain my rugby league fix.
But London Broncos are in my blood, I am a fan, I am a supporter. I will not be taken for a mug, but I will be there to give them my support.
I live in the firm belief rugby league in the Capital can work and my great hope is for it to work. London Broncos are the best hope for this to become a reality.'"
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