Thank goodness for that, attendances are bad enough without us banning people in union shirts.

As it happens the season ticket holder who sits next to me, a regular poster on this forum, is a Quins RU season ticket holder as well as being a club official at another quite high level RU team. He started watching us when we became Quins RL. Nice guy, knows his RL inside out now and can be found down Skolars and at away games as well. Quins RL would be a poorer place, in several senses, without people like him.

Some RU people have done a lot for RL down south over the years. The people at Streatham & Croydon RUFC who dared to upset their most famous ex player, Dudley Woods, turning themselves persona non grata at Twickers in the process, in order to save the leading amateur rugby league team in London when Dudley ordered Streatham & Croydon to evict them deserve our thanks.

As an individual all I want is to have a name I can be proud of again. I'm an RL fan and all of the values that RL has are important to me. RU is another sport with another culture which I generally choose to have nothing to do with. In itself a name change won't radically change our fortunes. But it will give me a 100% RL club to support again.

Hopefully those who make the decision will look at things from a somewhat broader perspective.

really?
I suggest that anyone who lives down south, supports RL and is confused between the RL shirt and the Union one neds to look in a mirror

3,704 was the average at Griffin Park. 3,596 is the average at the Stoop and I challenge anyone to put the 108 missing bodies down to anything other than the dross being served up on the pitch. 3,762 was the average over the first 4 years......since then, they have played 45 games and won 12.

21 of these have been home games...they have won 6 games and drawn 1......that's where the fans have gone over the last 2 years.....nothing to do with Harlequins being a Union Brand, everything to do with a crap team.

Rugby League fans are generally a lazy lot. SKY and the RFL Reckon there are 1,000,000 of them in the greater London region, yet only 3,500 are prepared to come and watch it live......same number pretty much every year since 1996. Nothing to do with a Union brand......

...people need to stop blaming the Union tie in......it's just another excuse when the real reason is that SKY/The RFL should be throwing a minimum of 500k a year at marketing the game and therefore the club down here.....

No, of course you won't
You and Dave)the latter only at times} make yourselves look fools enough with the stupid name calling! and personal attacks, so why do I need to lower myself? or even worry any longer.

To see a single brand of a rugby league club in London with a good team and first class marketing.

Never liked Griffin Park! so looks like we may never agree lol, for me I enjoyed it at The Valley, which I presume you will come back and say you hated! lol

What a bafflingly vain point of view.

I've got no problem with associating ourselves with QRU - initially I did, its true, but I grew out of it - largely because I think the stoop is excellent and also because we've gained a few fans of the type described above, Quins RU fans who have either got STs or come to watch the odd game. What an attitude like this does is tell them that we think we're better than them and we want nothing to do with them. That's not an attitude we can afford with the club in such a precarious position.

On the other hand, I had to laugh when Andy Wilson wrote in his 'set of six' this week that being called Harlequins RL alienated fans of Saracens, Wasps et al. If its that much of a problem for these people, here's an idea - GROW UP! pmsl as well at the idea of such an intercine 'rivalry' in London club rugby union - I know of Surrey Championship cricket clubs who have greater rivalries than that. Its pathetic.

A change of name and ground can't be judged on 5 years, especially 5 years when we've had sod all money. I don't know how many times I can keep going over this.

What's 'bafflingly vain' about a fiercely proud RL fan wanting to support an RL club with it's own identity? All you guys trying to act like you're writing a thesis on metaphysical modernity in the modern sporting marketplace make me laugh. Get your head out of your backsides. We're RL fans and we're all entitled to an opinion. Mine is that I want to support an RL club not a union club.

I loved the Coke Pepsi analogy. It is true without RU co-operation at a local club level the Summer Conference would never have got of the ground to which we are grateful, they must have been grateful for the rent and bar takings, but good on 'em. But Union and League are clean separate things as King Charles once said, you can like either, neither or both, but it sure confuses a lot of people who don't know what rugby is. We should be targeting the soccer fans with whom there is more affinity that RU.

nb I have nothing against Union, as with tennis and golf, I just don't like it, and lord knows I have tried to.

I have no issues with your point about supporting a club with it's own identity, where I do have issues is that there is also a point being made that having done this, we would suddenly increase our gates from all those supposed stay away supporters who hate the current identity, and the facts don't support that thesis as for the likelyhood of loads of London Irish, Sarries et all supporters suddenly jumping on board cos we are not longer using their rivals tag..............well I am not holding my breath.

People, regardless of what primary or secondary sports they like, will come along if what is put in front of them is something they can enjoy & is value for money, much like a good few QRU supporters have done for our sport.

Well we are exactly the opposite then, I HOPED the change of name was going to work and I thought we would bring on board the same major sponsors as the RU Club, but it is has not worked, you say we have had little money, lets put it this way David Hughes and his Bank Manager will not agree when they look at his private accounts!

I rate Andy Wilson as one of our best rugby league journalists, he is from the younger end of the range and looks at everything with a real open mind, I don't always agree with him but that is the same with any sports debate.

IF more money is going to be invested and the RFL are going to put in even more output (depending on us getting another 3 year licence) then we have to get it right this time! we can't risk giving it five years with the Quins brand, we need a complete new re-launch. Yesterday it was reported that we are close to an agreement with Sky for the next period and it is even more money when I was thinking along with many others that they may have made a reduction like with parts of football, we don't know all the facts there may be some conditions?

We are not all going to agree whatever the decision is! but we have got to Unite and get behind the choice made as it could be the last throw of the dice for London with Super League!