Hence the new name: the Loandem Drongos

I can't back up anything when it's wrong or presumption. eg. 1. who said Mataitonga will be on big money? 2. Being in the U20s, playing reserve grade is a step UP, not down as you stated. 3. He would be on his U20s contract which means he would have to either be in study or working which is an NRL policy. 4. The recruitment process of a club that wasn't 100% sure it was going to be around until a short time ago yet were still hunting round for players for months is not inept. 5. You don't know what's going on. So keep schtum and stop chucking your usual dung at the club. 6. Wait until the club tells us what's going on as it says it will, in the antipodes as it doesn't affect our lives.

FYI, I'm surprised you didn't have a go at the club because we missed out on signing a Manly prop (in yesterday's Syd Daily Tele), who decided to stay in oz because his wife's just had a baby.

I will see if I can kidnap a couple of Origin players and bring them back in my suitcase.

from Canberra

Going back via Sudney mate

Inglis, hayne and gallen then please!

I only asked for confirmation that a great deal of U20's don't make the NRL......as for the rest of your post, step, up/sideways or backwards, the Kiwi-Tongan kid didn't warrant a mention in dispatches for anyone in 2013, the reasons the clubs future was unsure are well documented and regardless of them, the situation we are in is 100% of our own making and I know a fair amount about what has gone on before and if the club weren't so ing analy uptight and secretive there'd be no need for speculation.
For months we were fed bollox about "top secret negotiations" when in fact, we were being ed over by the owner of Barnet with the complicit assistance of our CEO...the big secret was we were renting another ground AND letting the landlord keep all the takings...inspired



Until the RFL confirm what is happening at the end of 2014 (relegation and if so how many) London really can't offer anything to anyone other than 1 year because anything above 14th this year would be better than Lazarus picking up his bed and scarpering.

Still......you keep defending the club and for some reason, lean on my speculations whilst ignoring others. I am sure you have your finger on the pulse of the clubs recruitment and we will be sunned at the quality of the recruits we manage to get. I mean to say, going on the new guys so far, things can assuredly only get better

If you are looking to loan players out, presumably you expect them to develop by experiencing first team football. Hopefully when they return they will have learned from their experience. I am having difficulty in understanding how being loaned to a rag tag and bobtail "team" that is, on past experience of the coaches ability, going to be unfit, disorganised, lacking incentive, and getting hammered every week, will aid in young players' development. Someone please explain....

1. You said dropped down to reserve. YOU ARE WRONG.
2. If he is on big money then it show's how inept etc. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH HE'S GETTING, SO YOU SPECULATE
3. People who don't make the U20s, don't always drift "back" into part time. RESERVE GRADERS for NRL CLUBS CAN BE PART TIMERS. YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN.
4. Nesi is indicative of the standard of player left available to the club. ACCORDING TO THE SYDNEY MEDIA WE TRIED TO SIGN A MANLY PROP WHO PLAYED IN THE GRAND FINAL. YOU ARE WRONG.

See the pattern?

You only asked for confirmation that U20s don't make it to first grade. But you need to be pulled up on how wrong what you are telling people on here actually is.

Is disagreeing with you or pointing out when you don't know what you're on about now known as "defending the club" by the way. Then you resort to sarcasm because you've been shown up for not knowing about players. Ring your batphone to Gus and ask him. You've mentioned on many occasions you have one.

Good to hear what Sean Long has to say, it will be so interesting the effect he may have, more so on young players! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/25595439

Good to hear what Sean Long has to say, it will be so interesting the effect he may have, more so on young players! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/25595439

Since neither of you go to home games why don't you both calm down and worry about something that actually affects you.

Any team can fail to sign a Manly prop. It's no indication of the standard of players available to the club.