I dont think Hemel as a club are that pro-Quins, just from a few things Ive heard them say over the years in interviews etc. I dont think we would have first refusal on their best young players put it that way.

Unless Hemel have the player under contract it's nothing to do with them who a player signs for realistically. I have no idea about the Hemel / Quins relationship but the number of their ex players in our junior set up suggests they aren't exactly trying to stop players moving on to us. Dan Sarginson and Keiran Dixon are both ex Hemel for starters.

Hemel are the leading community club in the South (and most well established). They have aspirations of playing at a higher pro / semi pro level and to do that without the need to continually import players from north / overseas they need to develop their own juniors. It would be fair to say they find that a struggle, even with a full time development officer, and this is not helped by their better junior players joining the RPDC, effectively the pathway to join the Quins scholarship programme. We have seen the effect of this on Kieran and Dan. It is completely right and proper that this is the case and I don’t believe anyone at Hemel begrudges this, but it certainly doesn’t help them in their goals, particularly when junior players from their club who don’t succeed on RPDC, end up going off into the ether.

Jamie was well known to the Quins development management-It appears there appraisal was correct

Understood but the flip side is that Quins help develop the likes of Martyn Smith who is doing rather well at Hemel this season. (From memory he came out of one of the South London spin off teams not Hemel at Junior levels.) In an ideal world it will work as a two way street as players find their natural level.

What a load of rubbish, firstly they've got Leatherbarra and Actons ages wrong, Actons 19, wigan really going to let go a 19 year lad thats improved so much in a season, hes a centre never played prop as far as i na. Spencers also been on form, promoted to frst team durin season not gonna drop him aftere releasing davies. absolute codswallop.

Ok......

So has he been released or not?

Can't be 100% avent spoken to the lad but I'd put a bet on them keeping him on, there's not a chance he'd go to quins.

Quins dont want him hence why he was released.

As the developemnet guys say there isnt a kid over 12 who plays RL in the south they dont know about

He went to wasps iv gathered , lets be honest fella Acton or who ever quins ain't gonna turn Down someone wigan want , someone seems to ave a bit of a bee in their bonnet I think.

Or you have no idea about what you're talking about?

Or our development staff thought he wasn't good enough and then a few years down the line the North caught up with our way of thinking

Spoke to him during the week, signed a fulltime contract for next season.

For Hemel ?

Wigan. We would have him back any day.