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| Quote: The Curtism "If it was all about winning, then why do we keep turning up?'"
Because the club has become important to us and its part of our routine. Even amongst these fans numbers will dwindle when folks have nothing to get excited about.
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| Quote: gutterfax "I'll say it slowly....because some on here must have trouble grasping the fact. M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G.
It makes no difference what we are called or where we play....it is either a tradition of the club or DH not wanting to "waste" money marketing, but we could play in a state of the art stadium in Oxford Circus and no bu99er would roll up unless they have been invited to.
1,000,000 of David Hughes reported 1,500,000 a year should be spent on marketing.......that's what would turn the crowds around......obviously it being spent on playing/coaching staff is getting the required results
I get that we need to market ourselves properly, but surely we should at least be an aim to market ourselves from our home base, rather than our base of operations.
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| Marketing is marginally more important than Winning, right now the Quins could go unbeaten all season and win the lot but still no one would know about it.
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| Marketing, smarketing, a part of the whole not the whole itself.
As a collective group those involved have to understand that like it or not Rugby League is a niche sport in the UK, and it's not one that specifically is of interest regardless of how much or how well it is promoted, to the majority of people in the South.
Whatever is said about previous levels of marketing spend, the unanswered point is this, we have all in years gone by, brought friends along who probably have all expressed an opinion that says they like what they saw, we have also all known of many many people in the stands whose faces have dissapeared over the years, despite them being as commited supporters of the club and sport.
That's bodies through the gates and bums on the seats and whatever other trite marketing phrase is required to be used, but the fact still remains that those people no longer wish to attend, at least not on a regular basis, perhaps with a winning team a few may return, but by no means all, for the simple reason, it's not something we grew up with, it's not ingrained in our home town mentality and it's not for whatever reason our first point of choice for a leisure activity.
So market the product and the club as much as you like, but it's proven fact that even when people know about the sport, know about the club, and even attend some games, you may well not retain them, and no amount of flash patter will alter that.
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| Quote: Londo06 "www.afcwimbledon.co.uk/-/features/4905/a-stadium-fit-for-the-dons
With AFC Wimbledon in a play-off against Luton Town for a place in the Football League, are they someone we should consider getting in contact with were we to be interested in setting permanent foundations in London and the South East.
The football club currently achieves a 3500 average home gate at Kingsmeadow which is the home of Kingstonian FC. AFC Wimbledon have a desire to return closer to their traditional home. The general Wimbledon area would be not much further out of central London than Twickenham and does have underground and overground stations in that area.
Just thinking that we can't do it ourselves, and Wimbledon may have the support of authorities that we could not rely upon and the finances may be alot easier to secure for the year-round use 10,000 seater stadium in the general area of Wimbledon in London, something that David Hughes has alluded to. A 50% share of a stadium would have us in a better position than other super league clubs and would it be a better use of David Hughes money to put say £8m down via whatever means, rather than drain his money away around £1.5m a season.
I'm not saying we should hawk ourselves out to AFC Wimbledon in desperation, latching onto whomever may want to build, but from the outside it does seem to be a better fit than Harlequins and RL, but how much more of a marriage of convenience would it be as we would be seen as minor partners unless we had a 51% ownership of the ground.
Wimbledon is not the nice expensive houses and tennis, the surrounding area is sprawling suburbia and the area of Merton is surrounded by Kingston, Morden, Wandsworth, New Malden, etc and would be closer to our original homes of Fulham and also the Valley. A club in the North and South of London can only help the game, but would be nice if the Skolars could make the leap up to the Championship and bring a genuine sense of rivalry.
Pie in the sky or a roadmap forward when our deal at the Stoop comes to an end three years down the line. A move of 10 miles would not be the end of the community program in the Twickenham area, and I reckon a permanent home could only help the community program across London in the long run. I'm not David Hughes, and I don't know his finances, but I reckon this is something to look at for the future of rugby league in London, because at the end of 2014 there is no guarantees on anything.'"
I really think there could be some mileage in this, to be honest this I really hope could be a serious option for our future . Although the Stoop offers much as a stadium, its about the only positive we have at the moment and it would be a shame to leave such a good ground. If, as has been suggested, a move could be on the cards then it needs to be well thought out and not just leaping into another tenancy with a football club. A shared stadium with AFC Wimbledon could be a much better way forward if we do move,rather than say going back to Griffin Park and whatever arrangements we had with Brentford.
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| Would that mean a name change to Wimbledon RLFC?
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| Quote: The Curtism "Would that mean a name change to Wimbledon RLFC?'"
Well Wimbledon is in the London Borough of Merton and that is Greater London, so I see no reason why we couldn't call ourselves London whatever if we wanted to.
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| Quote: Londo06 "Well Wimbledon is in the London Borough of Merton and that is Greater London, so I see no reason why we couldn't call ourselves London whatever if we wanted to.'"
Even thought this move is hyperthetical which name convention would be more likely to engender closer relations with the local community wherever we ended up? it would still require a good decade to get into their mindsets wherever it was, but local identity would IMO work better than London whatevers, after all there's no Northern club called the Yorkshire **** or Lancashire ****
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| Quote: Homer "after all there's no Northern club called the Yorkshire **** or Lancashire ****'" ]
Why do they always seem to cheer on that team called Yorkshire then?
You know, when they do that "Yorkshire, Yorkshire, Yorkshire" chant?
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| Quote: Homer "Even thought this move is hyperthetical which name convention would be more likely to engender closer relations with the local community wherever we ended up? it would still require a good decade to get into their mindsets wherever it was, but local identity would IMO work better than London whatevers, after all there's no Northern club called the Yorkshire **** or Lancashire ****'"
Yeah I did think that anywhere we want to set down roots, we would need to set down roots and that would start with the name. At the same time Wimbledon RLFC would see us in a similar position to the one we are in; with AFC Wimbledon and Wimbledon RFC confusing the issue.
How about the London Crazy Gang.
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| Quote: The Gob "Why do they always seem to cheer on that team called Yorkshire then?
You know, when they do that "Yorkshire, Yorkshire, Yorkshire" chant?'"
Yawksuuure, Yawksuuure, you mean apparantly residents of that county like to be connected to some kind of pancake-like substance.
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www.afcwimbledon.co.uk/dtdocs/su ... wnload.pdf
The Dons Trust outlines the various directions that their club can go to secure a possible new stadium.
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 398625.stm
I read the David Hughes quotes and I wonder if their is an RFL presence in London, is there actually someone looking into any location at the RFL?
"It's very difficult to find a location in London, where you have the council co-operation, the loans, the finance. It's not easy.
"The RFL are looking for us as well because it's got to work for them as well, so nothing fixed at the moment yet.
"However, it is very important to have somewhere to call your own and build on that."
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www.afcwimbledon.co.uk/dtdocs/su ... wnload.pdf
The Dons Trust outlines the various directions that their club can go to secure a possible new stadium.
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 398625.stm
I read the David Hughes quotes and I wonder if their is an RFL presence in London, is there actually someone looking into any location at the RFL?
"It's very difficult to find a location in London, where you have the council co-operation, the loans, the finance. It's not easy.
"The RFL are looking for us as well because it's got to work for them as well, so nothing fixed at the moment yet.
"However, it is very important to have somewhere to call your own and build on that."
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16679.jpg Well f**k my hat, I didn't know that!
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| Quote: Homer "Even thought this move is hyperthetical which name convention would be more likely to engender closer relations with the local community wherever we ended up? it would still require a good decade to get into their mindsets wherever it was, but local identity would IMO work better than London whatevers, after all there's no Northern club called the Yorkshire **** or Lancashire ****'"
But our situation is closer to that of Catalans surely ? I mean they could have called themselves ' Perpignan Panthers ' I suppose but chose a name to reflect a region rather than the specific town /city where they play.
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| Quote: Homer "Even thought this move is hyperthetical which name convention would be more likely to engender closer relations with the local community wherever we ended up? it would still require a good decade to get into their mindsets wherever it was, but local identity would IMO work better than London whatevers, after all there's no Northern club called the Yorkshire **** or Lancashire ****'"
Well, there WAS Lancashire Lynx, though I've no idea how their fans referred to them.
But London is different in RL terms because, while Yorkshire and Lancashire (before its local government was chopped into bits) have always had many professional RL clubs, London has not, so a London club represents the city as a whole (with due deference to Skolars). And picking a local name such as Wimbledon not only sets a hostage to fortune should yet another move occur in the future, but also provides a disincentive to residents of neighbouring places.
Although my own connections to London are tenuous (and I don't actually much like the place) I was always very happy to chant "Laandaan, ...." in Broncos days as it marked our difference from the opposition. So I'd be in favour of the "London somethings", but not Broncos - they are of the past.
EDIT: So I think that puts me in agreement with Rob from Erith and his argument re Catalans.
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