Sorry if I'm late on this - does the extra £76 include access to a private bar? I'm confused.

You absolutely don't launch a 'work in progress'. And even if you did, you'd make it clear what progress was to be expected and on what timetable. 'Coming soon' has been the club's unofficial strapline for as long as I can remember and it inspires no confidence for me.

And it would be best if the ticketing software worked. (But rest assured I'll be phoning the club and buying a ticket).

I'm just looking for noticeable improvements on the Harlequins RL operation because I desperately want to have a club to support in 2015. If the relaunch doesn't bring us 2.5k season ticket holders, 10k for the first home game, and 4-5k thereafter then 2013 and 2014 will witness yet another slow decline into yet another crisis because we can't re-launch again. If it were me, I'd be pushing the new Broncos much, much harder than the temporary website is doing. November is the key month for sales - on the back of the launch and while tickets are cheapest; promotional efforts should be at their highest right now not in January.

Agree with many points, the website could have been completed quicker, but your 10K for the first home game is a little high for me, many teams in the heartlands of the North would love to get those numbers, I would settle for 6K, we have to build over time not expect miracles overnight, it is an ongoing marketing job.

I just Hope with One Third of the tickets sold for Wembley being sold to London postcode addresses we have the right for that data base if they have agreed to receive further information of course, what we then send them must be striking and professional not just a photo copy letter.

It does.

First home game as Quins got 8200 so we should be looking to match or beat that.

Saints brought a great following that day.

Pingwing- the extra £76 gets you and a guest access to the members bar (which I believe is the one in the LV or west stand) which is quite a nice bar (although I don't think you get any extra sorts of real ale- maybe someone should ask? Shame theres not enough RL fans to justify opening The Quins Head which is a bar in a marquee but with Sky sports and real ales). Like us, don't think you are bothered about the free car parking which is also included, and other bits.

I think my ST will be cheaper than it was when we moved to the Stoop 6 years ago. £176 or £99 is a bargain for elite sport, imo.

One thing I'm not sure of, is will we still have our after match awards and party? I know we haven't had much to party about these last few years but when we've had a win, we've had some cracking nights in the Kings Bar.

Some of us have got lost in the ground after prolonged celebrations...

Of course the suggestion was nonsense and as you well know that was the context of how it was worded in my post…………..it was meant to be as absurd as some of the constant knit-picking and criticism being levelled at the club over the recent changes, promotional efforts, ticket sales, web site etc etc.

We have been terrible for a number of seasons and not too long ago we looked like we might seriously fold, but DH has come up with additional funds, we seem to have recruited well, marketing has been put in place etc, but all this seems to be forgotten by many. Rather than appreciate the positives and take a mature view on the current changes some would rather just wallow in their own misery and negativity. Yes we know things can always be improved (you will never please everybody anyway) but none of the gripes posted on here are the PR disaster some would have you believe.

If we are fortunate to get off to a good start to the season and win our home games all of the crap directed at the club will soon be forgotten……..mind you if we continue our losing streak that will be a different story.

PS- I see the pull down menu on the RLfans site still says `Harlequins`

My only concern on the ST pricing is that it is costing the club money and we are not exactly flush! Many people I spoke to a Wembley on Saturday were going from the expensive to £99 as they had no need of a parking space or if a couple only having one expensive as they didn't need 2 parking tickets. They weren't bothered about the bar so why pay 70 odd quid more. However many 70 odd quids the club loses is surely too many. Also while not a huge source of income I dont expect there to be many player sponsors next year after what happened at the end of the season.