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cHILI..., given that you have gone of the subject of crowds and moved onto identity, can we take it you accept that we lose a point for our pi55 poor attendances, but score pretty well on the other points?
Good lad. Accepting you're wrong from time to time is all part of growing up
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Now, Identity! The Harlequins tie in has not proved as fruitful as was initially hoped, that is for sure, but our crowds are pretty much static across the board. Since 3,592 is the average gate of a home london game between 2000 and this season, I think it's pretty safe to say that regardless of what we are called, or where we play has little or no effect on our attendance figues. So, the idea of moving and name changing would seem to be fanciful.
Most on these boards know my opinion on the lack of fans and why it is the case, so I will steer away from that, but in short, Harlequins RL is what we are and IMO, Harlequins RL is what we should stay. No point in alienating 700 or so fans from West London who have become reglulars in th hope of attracting more new and loyal fans in another area.
Therefore, I would suggest that identity/location is not a problem for Quins RL either.....and regular visitors to these boards will know what I think the problem is

Indeed, if you look at our average crowds during the whole SL era, the only thing that really stands out is actually hardly rocket science. This is simply that we tend to have had bigger gates when the team has performed better. (Points difference perhaps being a better overall indicator of performance than league position). While there is a hardcore of fans who will turn up whatever, a larger group are influenced by what boffins would refer to as the notion of basking in reflected glory (and the opposite of cutting off reflected failure). Put simply most people don't want to associate with the sort of e being dished out currently at the Stoop.

SNAPSHOT.
2002 8th place finish 3,803 average
2003 5th Place finish 3,545 average (down 7%) First time in the play-offs....missed opportunity to market heavily in 2004
2004 10th Place finish 3,460
2005 6th place finish 3,918.
Not a lot can be read into these figures apart from 2005 we got a lot of press mid season when we were in the finncial mire, but even then, our crowds were worse at the end of the season and the biggest gate for a game at Griffin Park was managed when the club actually MARKETED THE GAME!
I agree that we will attract more fans when we are winning, but the club don't have the luxury of time to wait for that to happen. Interesting that all 4 years at Griffin park had an average of 3,681....and the 5 year average at the stoop is.....3,625.....not much in it to be honest.
If anything, 7th, 9th, 9th 11th and last this year should have seen a bigger drift away.......but I think the stoop, the matchday experience (no matter how crap they are on the pitch) the bands etc...have managed to keep people coming back.
We stay at the stoop and we have a chance to kick on over the next 4 years and build a supporter base from pretty dsolid foundations.....we move and IMO we will colapse by 2014 with less fans than we have now.

I think we've done well to hang on to the fans that we've got (makes you wonder how things might have progressed if we had kept in the play-offs last year).

Most clubs would struggle with our home win record (I make it 5 wins out of the last 18 home games).

Back on topic, I am surprised any bugga went to this game at all. I think Quins fans should have boycotted it after the last debacle (and the so-called Welshies scuppered the Jon Wells testimonial game too).

What happened with this game would not have happened to any other club.

Anyone else think that maybe they moved the game to fit in with Nobby's BBC commitments?

I can understand why you have to resort to attracting players from distant lands who may not heard of Hull. You should at least send them a link to rlthisrl as a heads up.