Last message. The day I edit out a club employee's name on the basis that their feelings are hurt is the day I stop posting on these forums.

I recall attending an Open Day at The Stoop in September 2005 and the West Stand wasn't quite complete, so presumably no union STs were sold for that stand that season. (The double header would have been Spring 2006 I think.) furthermore the union team were outisde the top division that season so presumably their crowds weren't quite at the same level as now.

I was under the impression the union team comes close to a sell out for most games so I would have thought it a tight squeeze to accommodate our crowd too (especially for a fixture with a larger than average travelling support) without selling some of the same seats separately for the two games.

As for the £25 ticket price for Saints fans including a game of no interest to them - as a matter of principle I think this is wrong. The closest equivalent I can think of would be if our game at Leeds was preceded by a Leeds Tykes match kicking off three and a half hours before our game, with a gap of almost two hours between matches, and we were charged an extra tenner on top of the regular price. It wouldn't stop me from attending if I was going to travel in the first place, but the union game would be of no interest to me whatsoever and I wouldn't be impressed. The earlier suggestion on this thread that different coloured "league only" tickets could have been sold to only admit the bearer after the union game is over sounds logical, but there could be a stewarding/safety issue in directing them to vacant seats as no one would know which union fans intended returning to watch the "free" second game, having paid their usual £25 for their own game.

Other than putting a spin on our average attendance for the purposes of our next licence application I'm beginning to think this whole double header has fewer plusses than minuses and that the union team should ahve arranged their match for the Friday evening or Sunday afternoon instead.

Now all it needs is a double-header programme at a double-header price, double-header car parking charges since the space will be occupied for longer....the list could be endless.

I know a few who wouldn't mind 2 pints for £5

The whole thing is another monumental own goal by the club as far as I'm concerned. For supporters of St. Helens, I have to say on your behalf I am outraged that you are being charged £10 more than every other visiting supporter this season. This season seems to be getting worse and worse on all fronts.

Plus if Saints fans travel by car there is no parking available to them at the Stoop or next door.
I sort of get the impression that the Quins don''t actually want Saints fans... they seem to be putting as many obstacles as they can in the way of watching a good RL match.

This is a valid point - As a Season ticket holder i got a free ticket to watch the union game - this was an allocated seat in the north stand as my usual seat was being used by the union season ticket holder - I'll take up my usual seat before our game.

This did not cost me a penny more than i have already paid which means that i am getting into the double header for a lot less than non season ticket holders and Saints fans.


when i collected my tickets at the salford game i was told that the number of RL season ticket holders who had taken up this offer was very good. which means that there is a demand to see both games from the RL supporters'"

This is the general feeling we are getting amongst some of our fans up here. We are wondering if Harlequins Union are making a statement of "we are in charge". The League fixture was a scheduled one where the Union I believe was a re-arranged one, so we would at least hope that the league fixture would be the first match, but no, the league match has been shoved back to the end of the day.
We were also concerned about the state of the pitch after the union game if the weather is bad with all the line outs, scrums, rucks and mauls.
Other comments was that they would have preferred playing Sunday rather than this invention of a double header. I hope the Union admin have taken on board most of the concerns and show some respect to another mans professional sport.

Quins can be blamed for a lot of things BUT in this case Sky are in the frame, they selected the game, time and day.

Good, I hope it is an absolute bog, ankle deep in mud, that will level things of a bit.

I was telling people before the Huddersfield games that the conditions would be a leveller, we seem to do OK when the weather is dire.

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2011 SEASON
HARLEQUINS v St HELENS

Make that game £10 cheaper than whatever the 2011 normal ticket price is.

I like it!!

You know something? after reading this post,and those on V.T. i wouldnt blame David Hughes and Harlequins R.U. if they said sod it and closed us down. Ive never seen so much winging and whining over a few quid in my life. Just pathetic.
No wonder the rest of the sports world thinks British R.L. is a joke.

Whilst I agree with your sentiments regarding an extra £10 to watch your team (and another game if you want) I would also say that when it comes to patience, Harlequins Rugby Union and David Hughes are no match for the patience of the RFL when it comes to London RL. 15 Years of trying to make a viable business......crowds, corporate revenue, exposure and a place at the top table of London sport have all continued to be dreams. And, the patience of the RFL is nothing when compared to that of the fans who have stuck by the club through thick and thin...

I agree, to whinge about £10 is a bit much, but it could have been planned and handled better IMO.