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| If we can replace him with a coach the calibre of someone like Daniel Anderson then yes.
If we are planning to replace him a coach the calibre of Mark Aston (Sheffield coach who rejected us last year) then no.
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34025_1447092002.png THE ONLY WAY TO GET SMARTER IS BY PLAYING A SMARTER OPPONENT
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| Players will be less likely to play for a coach who doesn't seem to be at SL level yet, rather than a rookie coach.
It wasn't given to Rob Powell at the end of last season so he was never the first choice on David Hughes' list, but he does seem to be an adopted son of London Rugby League and I think he should have a role at the club, but I wouldn't trust him to get the most out of recruitment when the offer of a London contract is put to a player and I also wouldn't back Powell to get the most out of any signing that we do make if he does remain in the top job.
The network of coaches at the decent levels is threadbare in London so we should be proud that someone has come through the London system, from amateur to the top job, but we should also make a business decision and say that there are better people to make use of the rumoured ramp-up in spending on player wages.
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| I agree Rob should have a role at the club, we should have brought someone in an experienced coach whatever it may have cost when the wheels started to come off, but it seemed too easy to write the season off, which is short sighted as it kills off trying to get new supporters.
Crusaders showed what they could do today both for themselves and Harris! we need to fight now to ensure we are not bottom of the league at the end of the season, Wakey fans each week in the rugby press claimed the bottom club should be kicked out, bring in Halifax then!
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| The season was a write off when the club failed to strengthen the squad for the third consecutive season (2009, 2010, 2011).
In 2008 we had Hill, Paul, McLinden, Randall, Rinaldi and Orr as playmaking options. And came 9th. Since then we've lost all bar Randall and resigned Dorn and Luke Gale. Just the playmakers - that is a quite a difference.
So anyone expecting a good season this year... well, it was unrealistic.
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| I cant put my finger on it but I like something about him and feel he should be given some more time....however I think he needs to learn the art of motivation / backside kicking asap. Nice guys finish last especially in a sport like RL that needs such physical commitment.
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| Young coaches dont work
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| Brown's about 36
Morgan's about 35
Maguire's 37
good coaches, good records.
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| I believe Justin Morgan got Toulouse to a Challenge Cup semi final before he was 30.
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| Quote: wire quin "Young coaches dont work'"
In what sport do they not work, sport is littered with young coaches Football, rugby, American football, Basketball etc etc
Mourinihio, Villas Boas, Don Shula, Mike Tomlin, rugby league coaches listed here, just off the top of my head,
I could argue all day with that statement, Not sure what you are basing that statement on.
The age of the coach is irrelevant, as is whether he played the sport at the top level
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| Fozzy-Name me a RL young coach that has been successful.
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| Quote: wire quin "Fozzy-Name me a RL young coach that has been successful.'"
Ricky Stuart
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| Powell should be replaced. I thought he was a poor but convenient and probably low budget appointment at the outset. Sure he has not got the strongest of squads, but does anyone have the confidence that he has the experience and contacts needed to bring in the best that we can afford next season (should DH be serious about delivering 6-7 experienced quality signings for next season).
The results on the pitch do not lie and I for one get fed up with the `we will learn from this ` statements that get trotted out after another loss........the coach and players don`t seem to be learning anything and something has to be done to stem the tide.
He has been given a chance and it does not seem to be working out. We cannot afford the luxury of waiting to see if he will improve, because as a club we have to move forward significantly over the next license period.
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| I suspect the argument here is what is young- Powell hasn't played the game or held a management position in Industry. He has worked under 1 inexperienced coach in a failing side. It is unlikely you would think that he can succeed.
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| It was always my position that a coach shouldn't be judged on a single season, particularly with the threadbare squad Powell inherited. It is also worth noting we lose big name players every winter, our squad has always lacked continuity. When was the last pre-season when we had a squad stronger than in the previous one - 2006?
To condemn Powell as a failure now is unfair because it is a team cobbled together of some mediocre, bargain-bin imports, raw but by no means hopeless young players and loanees who in many cases are filling gaps rather than adding any real value. In many people's eyes Powell was fortunate to be given the job by Hughes given his inexperience but he was unlucky to come in at a time when investment in the team was sorely lacking. There is a large part of me that wants to see how Powell does next season, should the rumours be correct and we actually go out and sign some decent players.
On the other hand, if the results were so good early on, why did we fall away so dramatically? No doubt this was all a sharp learning curve for Powell, but questions have to be asked about the failings the team has exhibited since April that mysteriously did not show early on.
We gave McDermott four years. We indulged him and he, eventually, took us, IMO, backwards. If anything Powell has taken us sideways, but for a rookie did we really expect anything else? Top 8 always looked out of our reach given the squad. I think this time next year, if the squad is better and we are still 11th, we'll know that his time is up. I find the argument that we must get rid of him to preserve our license, even though we've just been given a new one with him in the job currently, a rather dubious one. Of far more pressing concern is the crowd situation, which is directly linked to results i.e. the strength of the squad.
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| I think we are losing sight of the fact that Powell was part of the failed McDermott regime over a significant period of time.......therefore he was not starting from scratch and could be part of the problem. So why did anyone expect an improvement to be forthcoming? I agree that our poor squad and grim performances by some players has contributed significantly to his apparent lack of success, but can we really do nothing and see if he has more success with a no doubt `slightly` improved squad next season. Crowds are a problem, but nothing is going to improve or change if we are dished up more of the same next year.
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