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Hands up I gotitwrong, disappointing by Leeds. So it looks like we go to HKR or Toronto - what a shame........

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What a total joke Leeds is this season. A pathetic performance. They also looked utterly exhausted.

Also, I suspect the halving the parachute payment idocy from the RFL (how was that decided?) will mean Widnes totally fold, meaning we're away to Toronto.

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RFL will put stupid expansions above all others. I agree we need to expand the game but do it properly and not just admit teams because they have financial backing. The rugby teams which are already around also need help from the RFL ie Bradford, Widnes etc not just pushed into financial situations that breaks them. Forcing clubs to grounds which hold far more people than is necessary ie Salford and possibly London is stupid and doesnt help anyone. Far better to have clubs in 100% safe grounds. But hey if the RFL want to push clubs out of being who are we to argue we are only paying fans

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How did it not come up in a committee meeting that sharing the parachute payment for relegated SL clubs would create a conflict of interest?! It's a blatant flaw.

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we will go to Toronto... With RFL stating that widnes would lose £250k if KR go down, widnes will lose by 40+ on sunday to ensure they keep the £500K

its amazing just how stupid the people running RL are... What a collective bunch of idiots.... They are effectivly paying Widnes to lose

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Quote: itsmeagain "RFL will put stupid expansions above all others. I agree we need to expand the game but do it properly and not just admit teams because they have financial backing. The rugby teams which are already around also need help from the RFL ie Bradford, Widnes etc not just pushed into financial situations that breaks them. Forcing clubs to grounds which hold far more people than is necessary ie Salford and possibly London is stupid and doesnt help anyone. Far better to have clubs in 100% safe grounds. But hey if the RFL want to push clubs out of being who are we to argue we are only paying fans'"


There isn't any stands or cover to protect the spectators from the elements at Toronto Lamport stadium surely this stadium fails to meet the RFL minimum standards criteria for a professional rugby league ground

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Not sure if the standards actually say anything about the stands having to be covered! Just talk about capacity

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Money paid as parachute payment is only any good if it’s Spent wisely AKA Leigh! Even with an extra hand out they not stay up.
Think the whole central funding issue is one of the big problems in the game that will not be resolved unless there is a radical shake up.
If that means franchise again! Then Toronto tick a lot more boxes than us!

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Quote: northernbloke "Not sure if the standards actually say anything about the stands having to be covered! Just talk about capacity'"


There isn't any stands at all at the Lamport Stadium

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Ok if you wish to be pedantic. Don’t think there is anything that says the designated seating areas have to be covered.
What do you want to call the two structures either side of the pitch at lamport stadium. What ever you wish to call them they have the ability to seat 9000 plus
Besides they are Canucks they have big coats and boots to keep warm

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Quote: northernbloke "Ok if you wish to be pedantic. Don’t think there is anything that says the designated seating areas have to be covered.
What do you want to call the two structures either side of the pitch at lamport stadium. What ever you wish to call them they have the ability to seat 9000 plus
Besides they are Canucks they have big coats and boots to keep warm'"


So are you saying visiting teams supporters should take various types of clothing to cater for any type of weather conditions they may encounter at the game.

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Cover or no cover on the stand in Toronto. The weather would prevent any games being played before April at the earliest on the pitch.

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Average temp in Toronto in March 5 deg
Average temp in Manchester in March 7 deg.

Worse month for snow in Toronto is Jan, Feb yes they can get a bit but on average in Feb they get a total fall of about 10 inches with snow on about 9 days f the month!

How much snow did we get in the UK this year? The country ground to a halt. Difference with the Canadians is they know how to deal with it.

And Geoff, yes am saying visiting supporters if it’s going to be cold take a coat, a bit like they would if they were going to Batley

Bosty I agree severe weather may prevent games being played on the pitch, just like it does here when it snows

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How much snow did we get in the UK this year? The country ground to a halt. Difference with the Canadians is they know how to deal with it.

Maybe because every year without fail north america knows the percentage of snowfall and therefore investing in a great amount of machinery to cope with this is not economic suicide as it would be if we did that. They have it down to a fine art because as sure as eggs are eggs it is the same year in year out but our weather is sparodic to say the least.

And Geoff, yes am saying visiting supporters if it’s going to be cold take a coat, a bit like they would if they were going to Batley.


You dont have a weight restriction on luggage, or have a number of days clothing to go to Batley you pop the case in the car and come home next day.

Bosty I agree severe weather may prevent games being played on the pitch, just like it does here when it snows

Does this mean the next excuse to play half a season here and half a season in Toronto save them using their energy on travelling.

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One way or another I would like to see them go up. It will be good for RL.

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