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Fellow Broncos,

As a Newbie to this site, but as a recent convert to the game of RL and particularily the Broncos I would like to ask;

1. Why are the club pricing out potential supporters? Surely £43 for 2 adults and a 15 year old to watch a one sided contest is hardly the way forward. This was to stand in the north stand that was open, then closed, then open again ?

2. Having been to all three home games and encouraged by the enthusiasm of the team, I left on Saturday asking myself, "why did I bother?" I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking this?

3. Why did the club leave the Stoop that was in the heart of Union land south of the Thames , and move to a ground in the heart of Union land north of the Thames ?

4. Do the club honestly think fans will turn up in their thousands to watch a one sided affair, week in week out ?

5. It worries me that Leeds could put a cricket score past London, as well as Castleford, both live on Sky, and drive away more to the point the Catalan game might as well be played on one of the many training pitches at the Hive.



It saddens me to post this, but I have to get it off my chest. I know the recent history as to how the club ended up in this mess, and it is a mess.......if it was a football club the manager would have been sacked as these are his players whom he identified, as the owner would be terrified to lose the Sky funding.

Thank you for reading and as a convert from football the product of RL is magnificent, played by real athletes, I have total admiration for each Bronco player and I wish them every success as one can't fault the effort, but it takes more than effort?

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I blame Gus.

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Only the 3 Stooges know the answers to your questions.

The facts would suggest that in order to attract a respectable crowd in London you need a competitive team, however, where you play is somewhat irrelevant.

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Quote: jbuzza "Only the 3 Stooges know the answers to your questions.

The facts would suggest that in order to attract a respectable crowd in London you need a competitive team, however, where you play is somewhat irrelevant.'"

As long as it's on a tube icon_lol.gif

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Hughes and by association MacKay are both culpable for the demise of the club.

Hughes, because he refuses to take guidance from anyone about anything, even though he admits that he is a businessman and MacKay for being nothing more than the tool used by Hughes to implement failed changes.

The role of a CEO is, according to wiki...
Quote: investment "Typically, the CEO/MD has responsibilities as a director, decision maker, leader, manager and executor. The communicator role can involve the press and the rest of the outside world, as well as the organization's management and employees; the decision-making role involves high-level decisions about policy and strategy. As a leader of the company, the CEO/MD advises the board of directors, motivates employees, and drives change within the organization. As a manager, the CEO/MD presides over the organization's day-to-day operations.]'"

....I can see nothing that points to MacKay delivering on any of the above. It is patently clear that he simply does as he is told and in doing so, has managed to secure 4 years salary in a Job title that bears little resemblance to what he actually does.

Neither of these 2 men have the slightest clue of how to run a professional sports club.

The best way I can describe Hughes "investment" in the club is to compare him to a man standing at a Roulette Wheel and betting a considerable sum every time on 37. The croupier, other assembled gamblers and the management repeatedly tell him that the numbers only go to 36, but "he knows best" and believes that he'll win in the end if he keeps faith in his decision.....it is entertaining to watch, but it becomes increasingly painful as time goes by before it becomes just pitiful.

The real crime here is that by the end of his tenure this year, he will have flushed close to 14 million quid down the drain and we will have NOTHING to show for it......I don't know whether to cry or laugh icon_confused.gif

If I had 10% of that, I'd have delivered 5k averages within 2 years, but they've somehow managed to reduce the gates to 1,200.....

...I'll say this though. If the RFL allow Mandy K to buy the Bradford Bills, I believe that both Lenegan and Hughes may well be advised to seek legal advice. If they'd have let IL keep his shares and permitted him to invest in the club, we'd be 100% better off than the shambles we have before us.....

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Quote: Dartford bronco "
3. Why did the club leave the Stoop that was in the heart of Union land south of the Thames , and move to a ground in the heart of Union land north of the Thames ?
'"


North London is football land not union land (I say that as a Saracens fan).

I had been looking forward to going to a few Bronocs games as they are now more local to me but there's nothing worse than a very one sided game and it looks like it could be a full season of those... Not been to a game at the Hive yet as the first 3 home games clashed with RU 6 nations, next two home games being on a Thursday is hardly going to help crowds...

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Paddock Punter "As long as it's on a tube it is the classic mistake made by many non-Londoners and all foreigners who are either tourists or now living in the capital, that the Tube map is a map of London.

Therefore it is perfectly safe to assume that the Oil broker and his African puppet believe that the tube station's proximity to the Hive was a game changer........alas, the only thing it is likely to change is the division the team play in icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Point of order.

There is no UNION heartland. Nor is there a Soccer on e either.......there is on the other hand, a RL heartland, because that's where 99.9% of the teams that play the game are based.

There are Union teams scattered from the West Country to the East Midlands, a couple further north and a few along the M4 with some in London.

Also, TWICKENHAM is not a Union heartland. TWICKENHAM is where the RFU happen to have their stadium. Same goes for WEMBLEY......it is not a soccer heartland.

You could situate the London Broncos anywhere in the UK.....with the idiots in charge still in charge, nobody would care, none would bother and even less would turn up to watch.

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Welcome DartfordBronco. Agree with your points that the prices aren't going to help with attracting new fans.We should've done what the Big Hit RLWC Semi Finals done with the fantastic pricings. Really baffles me how we haven't had any incentives to bring people in from the area who are mostly, QPR,Arsenal,Spurs,Watford and Barnet fans and would have never seen an RL match in their life.

Agree with GF re: the Ian Lenegan situation.

Our hope is that an investor comes in to replace the current administration or even the Barnet Chairman gets into a joint venture. But as the weeks go on, still no news.

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Gutterfax, there's not just two of them, the coach is a clown as well.

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Quote: Euclid "Gutterfax, there's not just two of them, the coach is a clown as well.'"


Which is which ?



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To try to answer the OP's query:

- On field performance was always going to be very poor this season. We knew this 6 months or so ago when the established squad was allowed to disintegrate without the possibility of any new recruitment until the new ground-share was finalised. Other clubs have had squads assembled and in training together since early November. We still have players arriving within the past couple of weeks. And of course, being so late at the races, we've been able to recruit only those players that nobody else wanted.

- Off-field, there is no evidence of any leadership or attempts at supporter engagement from whoever is currently "managing" this "organisation". Just one example (which has already been highlighted by others) - I've been a season ticket holder for more than 10 years. I've bought no ticket of any type this season. And how has the club reacted to my disappearance from the stands and the revenue stream? Not at all. Not a single contact. I recall that a few seasons ago I was a bit dilatory about renewing my season ticket. What happened then? I received a phone call, on behalf of the club, from one of the academy lads. But now? NOTHING. I'm afraid that the club deserves to die because it's doing almost nothing to keep itself alive.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: BroncOnIon " until the new ground-share was finalised.'"

When will it sink in........it is not a ground share. The landlord receives money from London broncos, money from London broncos fans and from the RFL.......London broncos don't "share" anything

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Quote: BroncOnIon "
- Off-field, there is no evidence of any leadership or attempts at supporter engagement from whoever is currently "managing" this "organisation". Just one example (which has already been highlighted by others) - I've been a season ticket holder for more than 10 years. I've bought no ticket of any type this season. And how has the club reacted to my disappearance from the stands and the revenue stream? Not at all. Not a single contact. I recall that a few seasons ago I was a bit dilatory about renewing my season ticket. What happened then? I received a phone call, on behalf of the club, from one of the academy lads. But now? NOTHING. I'm afraid that the club deserves to die because it's doing almost nothing to keep itself alive.'"


Exactly.
This season I have had a 50% off voucher through the post from Hemel Stags as I went to one RLWC game and today I got an e-mail from the RFL offering me half price ticket for London Slokars...nothing from the Broncos.

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Thank you all for taking the time to write a post. One thing is clear, whether I agree or not , you all clearly have a passion for the club that can only be applauded.

Personally, I don't think its worth the £50 for the family, plus the travelling costs to watch a team who at this moment in time look like certainties to be relegated. The team are really trying but I don't see why I should part with hard earned cash to watch them get hammered.

I wish you all the very best for the remainder of the season, and someone should talk to Barry Hearn about how he turned snooker and darts into major sporting attractions ! Now there's a man who knows how to put bums on seats........

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