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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



TK apparently wants people to sign up for the monthly membership thingy eh?

Cheapest option (terrace) for the 2014 season at Barnet FC prices is £29 a month with a corner/end of stand seat £34 or Mid Stand seat and easy access to bar £39. The walk-up prices are £16, £19 £22 respectively.

April, June, August and September (not withstanding CC matches) have 1 game each so I can see either a drop in attendances or a drop in revenue for TK.

8 Month season and a mid-stand seated membership is £312.00. Frugal and Yorkshire Born fans could cancel for the 1 game months and save, reducing the cost for 13 SL games to £244 if they walk up and pay for those 1 game months.
8 month season and a terrace membership is £232 or £180 for those from east of the Pennines.
8 month season top end comes to £592 or £752 depending on how much curry you want and how badly you want to heckle the players www.barnetfc.com/tickets/memberships/

I am certain that the Broncos games will be sold as an add on to the membership packages in the same way as the following

Gym Membership £20pm
Car park £10pm
Away Travel £38pm
You claim to know how much Broncos season ticket is on incorrect information and a complete lack of understanding of how the scheme works.

The original early bird pricing was retained and has been extremely good value. I pay £29pm for the top seats with my 2 teenage kids costing me £2 each. So my total cost for access to 40 games is under £400 for the year.

You really think that because Gutterfax says £752 then that's what it will be? Think about it, Tk wants to attract a crowd, not scare them off.


Let me give you the breakdown of how the membership works
www.barnetfc.com/tickets/memberships/

I am certain that the Broncos games will be sold as an add on to the membership packages in the same way as the following

Gym Membership £20pm
Car park £10pm
Away Travel £38pm


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Looks like prices could be a sticking point, monthly membership he is having a laugh can't see me going 180 mile round trip to the gym! Nor can I see many away travel games if they are on the usual Friday night. Who ever is doing the pricing will need to take in last years price @100 and the state of the team in terms of strength.

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tbf when TK first announced the scheme the support went ballistic but you will struggle to find a Barnet fan who is now opposed to it. Our average number of season ticket holders used to be 500-600 but 1100 have now signed up for the membership scheme.

I suggest you wait and see what is offered but I'm pretty confident it is unlikely to be much dearer than last year, if at all.

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Just thought for the last few years the kids season tickets have all had away vouchers in the price it will be interesting to see what happens at the Hive

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: meliferra "You claim to know how much Broncos season ticket is on incorrect information and a complete lack of understanding of how the scheme works.'"

well, I wouldn't have to ing trawl the internet and scour the Barnet website to investigate the potential cost for 2014 if the Club had a clue. Less than 500 ST holders in 2012........and less again in 2013, so rather than let a little old keyboard warrior like me get things wrong, why not at least communicate to last years customers and let them know the prices for next year......unless of course TK hasn't given it any thought d040.gif

As for early bird schemes being extended and special offers....nothing like a good discounting policy to set the bar icon_rolleyes.gif ....1,800 average for Barnet FC this year...we're going to fit right in icon_rolleyes.gif

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"People use statistics the way a drunk uses a lamp post - for support not illumination":



I didnt have to trawl anything.
Main website www.barnetfc.com
click on tickets.
Is that really so hard? Alternatively you could have asked rather than make assumptions on outdated information.

This is the first year of the membership and the club adopted the same methodology as a season ticket on the membership with the early bird concept. Supporters like me contacted the club and explained why this wouldn't make financial sense. Basically after you had gone three games into the season then the full membership worked out dearer than paying on the door so they agreed to retain the original membership prices. Truth of this is almost nobody buys season tickets at full wack, if you are that late then most just pay on the door because there is little value to be had.

You probably don't know (or care) about our history but basically we went from 500 avg attendance to reaching the 3rd tier (League 1) with 3-4000 avg attendances bankrolled by a wealthy chairman (Stan Flashman) who then pulled the plug without warning, we lost all our players and had to rebuild almost from scratch. TK has been slowly putting the infrastructure in place so we are self-sufficent and while this hasn't yet been converted to promotion most can see the benefits of what he has done and that we are no longer reliant on someone bailing us out. If we are successful this season then crowds will go up, if not they will go down. Id prefer the former but I'm realistic enough to know it may not be so. As an aside we have sold nearly 4000 tickets for our next home game so it's not all bad.

I'd rather be optimistic and suggest that the 2 teams now playing at the Hive would look to support each other and so boost attendances for both parties but hey, what do I know.
I didnt have to trawl anything.
Main website www.barnetfc.com
click on tickets.
Is that really so hard? Alternatively you could have asked rather than make assumptions on outdated information.

This is the first year of the membership and the club adopted the same methodology as a season ticket on the membership with the early bird concept. Supporters like me contacted the club and explained why this wouldn't make financial sense. Basically after you had gone three games into the season then the full membership worked out dearer than paying on the door so they agreed to retain the original membership prices. Truth of this is almost nobody buys season tickets at full wack, if you are that late then most just pay on the door because there is little value to be had.

You probably don't know (or care) about our history but basically we went from 500 avg attendance to reaching the 3rd tier (League 1) with 3-4000 avg attendances bankrolled by a wealthy chairman (Stan Flashman) who then pulled the plug without warning, we lost all our players and had to rebuild almost from scratch. TK has been slowly putting the infrastructure in place so we are self-sufficent and while this hasn't yet been converted to promotion most can see the benefits of what he has done and that we are no longer reliant on someone bailing us out. If we are successful this season then crowds will go up, if not they will go down. Id prefer the former but I'm realistic enough to know it may not be so. As an aside we have sold nearly 4000 tickets for our next home game so it's not all bad.

I'd rather be optimistic and suggest that the 2 teams now playing at the Hive would look to support each other and so boost attendances for both parties but hey, what do I know.


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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: meliferra "I didnt have to trawl anything.
Main website
Cool story Bro.
Here are some FACTS for you regarding your new best buddies.

Your new tenants/ground sharers receive about £1.5 million a year from the SL TV deal and in 2012, spent a total of £2.7 MILLION on their first team squad and £524,000 on Coaches.....the Owner sunk £2.2 million in to cover their shortfall.
2013 figures are not available, but I assure you that they are just as ugly!
Bottom line is that a team of 2nd rate players (we are shopping for cast offs and loaners) will finish dead set bottom in 2014, hardly inspiring either new or existing fans to pay £16 or more to witness weekly hammerings. TK will not see any benefit of future in having a championship club with 800 fans in 2015 and London Broncos will move on again.

Basically, It costs a minimum of £4,000,000 to run a SL club. £2,500,000 of that needs to be generated by the club itself with the rest from SKY money. In 2012, the club raised £543,000.


On your last point......we've shared/rented with Charlton, Harlequins, Charlton, Brentford and Harlequins over 18 seasons. When it comes to cross fan cultivation, I wouldn't be holding my breath icon_lol.gif

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Quote: meliferra "
I'd rather be optimistic and suggest that the 2 teams now playing at the Hive would look to support each other and so boost attendances for both parties but hey, what do I know.'"


Genuine synergy is to be hoped for. A shared membership might work in that regard.

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Don't mind GF. He's a fully paid up member of The Stoop Hard-on Brigade.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



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Don't mind GF. He's a fully paid up member of The Stoop Hard-on Brigade.'"

Nope.....I just don't see the need to move away from the ground. Along with the name change, the move was pointless and will deliver little in the way of security in the long term for the club. I have no love of the Stoop, but we were in charge of our own destiny there.

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Quote: gutterfax "I just don't see the need to move away from the ground. '"


Maybe not in 2006 but in 2013 the club has about as many fans as your average non-league football club.

The Hive is a state of the art facility in those terms.

We are where we are. Anything else is crying over spilt milk.

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Melif,
Don't do it mate, get out of the Gutterfax vortex now!! If you get dragged in to it getting out is gonna be a challenge.

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