FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > London Broncos > Is it dead yet ?
21 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman5480No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2021Oct 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
187.jpg
[img:2penstlp]http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5994/saints7sk.gif[/img:2penstlp] "...the biggest boor, the most opinionated pompous bigot that frequents these boards and he is NOT to be taken at all seriously. ":187.jpg



Last year, I wrote that I thought there was a real stench of death around the Broncos. Pretty much every aspect of the club was in serious decline, both on and off the field. More importantly though, because all clubs go through bad times (and my signature strip is a reminder that other clubs have had worse hammerings just one stage earlier in the challenge cup), it seemed like there wasn't even an attempt to get the adrenaline shot out.

When Wigan hit the rocks, you could see they did everything (including cheating) to pull themselves back up. When Bradford hit last year the local community, fans, coach and players clearly were trying everything to steady the ship. When Huddersfield and Widnes had their respective periods of doldrums, they put the metaphorical boats out with a towline and kept rowing till they got the wind in their sails again.

But London - nothing. No new owner, no effort from the players, no sign of any significant attempt to arrest the calamitous fall in support. It's like a zombie club. Apart from a hardcore few hundred fans, there's simply no sign of passion, determination or even that anyone cares. Hughes has let it be known he's retiring. The Clubb captain has thrown in the towel publicly. The chief exec seems to write his rare announcements by using a random word-generating machine, and has precisely no plan for next year. The fans are turning black humour and despair into an art form. The players aren't even pretending to care - Dorn actually ran away from O'Loughlin today when he broke the line, and I can't watch the highlights of London games because I see "tackling" from pro players every week which is of a significantly worse standard than I see in most of the amateur games I referee around the city.

I know London is a special case - I've been actively involved in rugby league in the city now for more than 20 years - and I know it's harder than it is up north, with fewer committed fans, or local businessmen with an interest. But there's no energy. No sign that anyone, from any part of the club, is injecting any real desire to improve. The whole club feels like an ER room when a DoA case is brought in. People are going through the motions, but nobody is going to waste sweat on this one.

For the first time, I no longer believe the London club is going to survive. In fact, it would not surprise me at all if London folded at the end of this season. Everything about the club is currently pointing that way. There's no fight left. There are no strong statements about the future. There are no ambitious goals or forceful personalities. The corpse is barely twitching.

Is it dead yet ? Is there any light ? Or are we all going to have to accept the end of Fulham/Crusaders/Quins RL/Broncos ?

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4906No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2022Mar 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4438_1358277234.jpg
Didn't gat an answer when I asked Radford how much he paid Stokes to save his job.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4438.jpg



RH I fear you may well be correct.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14845No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2021Jul 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
143_1357419061.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_143.jpg



It would be a tragedy to throw away 33 years of effort. When I think back to some of the effort and heart put in by players in the so called dark days at Crystal Palace and then compare that with what was on display yesterday it's sickening. Forget the club's situation for a minute but the way it looked to me yesterday most of the players had no personal pride. To me no matter how lowly or hopeless the task people should endeavour to retain their self-dignity. Yesterday it seemed to me that most had no self-respect and to me that shows as people they are not up to being successful sportsmen. They should get other jobs.

A special word must go to the coaching staff as well. The team looked wholly uncoached in every respect - fitness, defence, offence and just even how to line up. In my opinion, it takes a special level of ineptitide to produce that or perhaps to demotivate the 'players' so much that they end up producing it.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach839No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2021Jan 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9645.gif
hello:9645.gif



Quote: Dally "It would be a tragedy to throw away 33 years of effort. When I think back to some of the effort and heart put in by players in the so called dark days at Crystal Palace and then compare that with what was on display yesterday it's sickening. Forget the club's situation for a minute but the way it looked to me yesterday most of the players had no personal pride. To me no matter how lowly or hopeless the task people should endeavour to retain their self-dignity. Yesterday it seemed to me that most had no self-respect and to me that shows as people they are not up to being successful sportsmen. They should get other jobs.

A special word must go to the coaching staff as well. The team looked wholly uncoached in every respect - fitness, defence, offence and just even how to line up. In my opinion, it takes a special level of ineptitide to produce that or perhaps to demotivate the 'players' so much that they end up producing it.'"



O'Callaghan at stand off was a classic, do you really expect to win games with that type of selection.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman5100
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1428_1727693289.png
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae-HziERgfk:p2kbb0c5]Gus Mackay we salute you!![/url:p2kbb0c5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1428.png



Quote: The Daddy "O'Callaghan at stand off was a classic, do you really expect to win games with that type of selection.'"



Nope, that was quite ridiculous. Is it true David Hughes so disgusted he didn't watch the second half ?

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach839No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2021Jan 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9645.gif
hello:9645.gif



Quote: jbuzza "Nope, that was quite ridiculous. Is it true David Hughes so disgusted he didn't watch the second half ?'"



That's what has been reported in the sun, I wouldn't be surprised, he's pumped several million into the club and they come up with that rubbish.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5846
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg
Officially RLFAN's most Doe-eyed Happy Clapper. Big Steve wrote: The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them. aboveusonlypie... If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg



Really feel for you "die hard" guys... You deserve more.

RankPostsTeam
International Star15No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2013Jul 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
57766_1364321784.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_57766.jpg



I will be amazed if there is a London club in Super League next season. As the Broncos were being demolished yesterday, I was ironically at the home ground of the Broncos from the good old days - The Valley.

Me and my kiwi mate are going on Thursday just for the fact we both think it'll probably be the last game of Super League we get to in London.

A real shame.

RankPostsTeam
International Star2259No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2015Mar 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
59709_1306485067.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_59709.jpg



Hudds to come after Leeds get to that too!!

I'm hearing there are investors interested. From someone at the top

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach839No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2021Jan 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9645.gif
hello:9645.gif



Quote: wire quin "Hudds to come after Leeds get to that too!!

I'm hearing there are investors interested. From someone at the top'"



The top of where?

RankPostsTeam
International Star2259No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2015Mar 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
59709_1306485067.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_59709.jpg



The club, where do you think the tree in my back garden!!

RankPostsTeam
International Star2681No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2017Jul 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
58216_1342011610.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_58216.jpg



Quote: QuinBoks "I will be amazed if there is a London club in Super League next season.'"


Even if there is, its unlikely that they'll avoid relegation next season.

Feel sorry for you guys. I love the away day to London, especially the stoop. But there comes a time when you need to look at this objectively, and it doesn't look good; both on and off the field.

No top level team can get 2-3k a game, it is not sustainable and I feel sorry for the owner who has put a lot of money into the club.

RankPostsTeam
International Star2259No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2015Mar 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
59709_1306485067.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_59709.jpg



What about the best team in the league with 5K crowds

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner3678No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2014Jun 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9272_1327693385.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_9272.jpg



Quote: wire quin "Hudds to come after Leeds get to that too!!

I'm hearing there are investors interested. From someone at the top'"


If there are where on earth will they recruit players from now. Most teams will have completed recruitment of the good available players for next season. We cant persuade quality players to move south there are restrictions on overseas players we can recruit, the money in the NRL is now a big problem and any decent players that might come will surely head North before coming here.

RankPostsTeam
International Star2259No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2015Mar 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
59709_1306485067.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_59709.jpg



Maybe we have players signed up but not announced. They've not said who is leaving, equally they have not said who is coming in

Just a thought

21 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
21 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.470703125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7m
Grand final Tickets
apollosghost
5
14m
Leigh it is
NickyKiss
98
17m
Season tickets
Ilkley Fax
10
41m
TV Games - Not Hull
bishops fing
2930
Recent
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
micktheleyth
11
Recent
Wigan win academy final
Simba16
21
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
4084
Recent
Tonights match v HKR
RobRiches
91
Recent
Betting 2024
karetaker
187
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leedsbarmyar
2421
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Season tickets
Ilkley Fax
10
1m
Isa 1 year extension
Trainman
11
1m
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62588
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
bishops fing
2930
2m
Rumours thread
PopTart
2451
3m
Play-off semi-final
Prince Buste
22
3m
Film game
Boss Hog
4084
3m
Betting 2024
karetaker
187
3m
Wigan win academy final
Simba16
21
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Grand final Tickets
apollosghost
5
TODAY
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
Questions for Ste Mills
PopTart
4
TODAY
Decision on the field
MR FRISK
17
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
morleys_deck
24
TODAY
Worst semi
Barstool Pre
5
TODAY
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Tony Fax
3
TODAY
Sam Burgess
morleys_deck
9
TODAY
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squad 2025
Nat (Rugby_A
1
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
RobRiches
91
TODAY
Isa 1 year extension
Trainman
11
TODAY
2024 IMG gradings
Victor
3
TODAY
Championship Awards
FIL
10
TODAY
Season tickets
Ilkley Fax
10
TODAY
Best Semi
sir adrian m
13
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
micktheleyth
11
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
8
TODAY
Guest appearance
AgbriggAmble
2
TODAY
Squad for HKR
MorePlaymake
28
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
125
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
259
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
811
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
848
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1244
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1467
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1208
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1619
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1319
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1549
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1728
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2068
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1684
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1713
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
2041
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.64M 3,474 ↓-6180,13214,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
       Championship 2024-R29
 FT 
York
27-10
Widnes
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R29
 FT 
Wigan
38-0
Leigh
 TOMORROW
     National Rugby League 2024-R31
09:30
Melbourne
v
Penrith
       League One 2024-R26
15:00
Keighley
v
Hunslet
       Championship 2024-R29
15:00
Bradford
v
Featherstone
     Womens Super League 2024-R16
16:30
York V
v
St.HelensW
 Sat 12th Oct
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R30
18:00
Hull KR
v
Wigan
 Sun 27th Oct
     Mens Internationals 2024-R2
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov
     Womens Internationals 2024-R2
12:00
ENGLAND W
v
WALES W
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Sat 5th Oct
SL
17:30
Wigan38-0Leigh
Sun 6th Oct
L1
15:00
Keighley-Hunslet
WSL2024
16:30
York V-St.HelensW
NRL
09:30
Melbourne-Penrith
Sat 12th Oct
SL
18:00
Hull KR-Wigan
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 5th Oct
CH
LIVE
York27-10Widnes
SL
LIVE
Wigan38-0Leigh
Fri 4th Oct
SL 29 Hull KR10-8Warrington
Sun 29th Sep
L1 25 Rochdale26-46Hunslet
CH 28 Barrow24-26Widnes
CH 28 Bradford50-0Swinton
CH 28 Dewsbury28-8Sheffield
CH 28 Wakefield72-6Doncaster
CH 28 Whitehaven23-20Halifax
CH 28 York16-6Featherstone
Sat 28th Sep
CH 28 Toulouse64-16Batley
SL 28 Warrington23-22St.Helens
NRL 30 Penrith26-6Cronulla
Fri 27th Sep
SL 28 Salford6-14Leigh
NRL 30 Melbourne48-18Sydney
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 28 759 336 423 46
Hull KR 28 729 335 394 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 26 1010 262 748 50
Toulouse 25 744 368 376 35
Bradford 26 678 387 291 34
York 28 682 479 203 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 26 622 500 122 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Swinton 27 474 670 -196 18
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7m
Grand final Tickets
apollosghost
5
14m
Leigh it is
NickyKiss
98
17m
Season tickets
Ilkley Fax
10
41m
TV Games - Not Hull
bishops fing
2930
Recent
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
micktheleyth
11
Recent
Wigan win academy final
Simba16
21
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
4084
Recent
Tonights match v HKR
RobRiches
91
Recent
Betting 2024
karetaker
187
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leedsbarmyar
2421
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Season tickets
Ilkley Fax
10
1m
Isa 1 year extension
Trainman
11
1m
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62588
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
bishops fing
2930
2m
Rumours thread
PopTart
2451
3m
Play-off semi-final
Prince Buste
22
3m
Film game
Boss Hog
4084
3m
Betting 2024
karetaker
187
3m
Wigan win academy final
Simba16
21
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Grand final Tickets
apollosghost
5
TODAY
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
Questions for Ste Mills
PopTart
4
TODAY
Decision on the field
MR FRISK
17
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
morleys_deck
24
TODAY
Worst semi
Barstool Pre
5
TODAY
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Tony Fax
3
TODAY
Sam Burgess
morleys_deck
9
TODAY
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squad 2025
Nat (Rugby_A
1
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
RobRiches
91
TODAY
Isa 1 year extension
Trainman
11
TODAY
2024 IMG gradings
Victor
3
TODAY
Championship Awards
FIL
10
TODAY
Season tickets
Ilkley Fax
10
TODAY
Best Semi
sir adrian m
13
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
micktheleyth
11
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
8
TODAY
Guest appearance
AgbriggAmble
2
TODAY
Squad for HKR
MorePlaymake
28
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
125
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
259
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
811
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
848
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1244
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1467
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1208
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1619
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1319
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1549
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1728
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2068
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1684
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1713
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
2041


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!