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Quote: Hockley Bronco "Genuine question
At what point does this situation become existential? Presumably at some point the RFL will require some sort of guarantee that the club can complete next years fixtures? Does anyone know?'"

I guess that also depends where IMG decide to place London. The gradings are due soon. There has to be an argument the previous grading may drop. Category C in League 1 is looking feasible. That would get headlines, IMG's London strategy going as badly as possible.

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over 20 years and a number of user names after gutters was banned here and on the other site for being "too confrontational" about the future of the sport and London in particular, it makes me seethe that IMG are getting paid to say what i was saying 2 decade ago.
Hughes, the owners of RLFans and Total were all wrong and little old Gutters was right......who'd have thought it?

IMG will deliver SFA, whilst the likes of Derek at Leigh are the only hope the game has. When Ken pops his clogs, Huddersfield will be next to go, with any number of other clubs next in line.

10,000 fans is the minimum needed.....15,000 once SKY offer less next time and it really is now a northern niche sport.

As for Hughes? I feel nothing but disdain for the man. He constantly messed it up and never admitted his errors. Arrogant man.

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So which team next season will end up with the most Ex-Broncos?

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Quote: orangeman "over 20 years and a number of user names after gutters was banned here and on the other site for being "too confrontational" about the future of the sport and London.

As for Hughes? I feel nothing but disdain for the man. He constantly messed it up and never admitted his errors. Arrogant man.'"


Don't disagree with this other than to say most successful people tend to be arrogant including dare I say it yourself. Unfortunately, Hughes & success where rugby league are concerned were never in the same bed.

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Quote: Deadcowboys1 "Don't disagree with this other than to say most successful people tend to be arrogant including dare I say it yourself. Unfortunately, Hughes & success where rugby league are concerned were never in the same bed.'"

Mr H was and is the only game in town for Broncos for several seasons. Where we are now was inevitable, only the timing was in doubt. Many teams are built on similarly shallow foundations and many are at risk. Many may have to cut the wages and standard of their squads which will lead to smaller tv deals- an anti-virtuous circle.
DH’s money allowed fans to have a bit of fun and for that he should be thanked but now sadly it’s done.

I wonder if the Covid situation is where our fate was sealed. The termination of the 2020 season spaffed our parachute payment down the toilet. The 2021 season was a mess - 7th with a full time squad was pony. Did he feel after he treated staff right over lockdown (as I understand) that they were all a bit quick to do one. The complete loss of momentum and pitiful crowds when they were allowed back was depressing.

There can be no excuses for the move to Plough Lane with a PT/L1 squad. it was the perfect example of a last incompetent throw of the dice and of someone who wasn’t getting good objective advice or not taking it. As I said at the time if he’d wrote down what he planned to do and had shown it to a grown up they’d have explained why it was total pony. It’s like he guessed what would be enough for IMG and assumed they’d just accept it rather than stick to the criteria they had developed (sh xx as some of them were). Let’s be honest Last year was going nowhere until we bought a couple of players late doors, Fev collapsed and we were in SL on the back of a string of away games that almost none of us saw. Then the brutal announcement came that IMG weren’t playing games and we’ve blundered through another sub par season albeit one where the side developed from poor to competitive but again the damage for crowd growth was holed below the water line in our 1st few games now. One positive is we no longer need to worry about crowd growth.

In fairness to him and his family he’s probably given up enough of his money the situation isn’t going to change London and rugby league aren’t really viable.

The next couple of weeks will be a daily litany of players leaving and then we’ll hear from love rugby league or Matthew Shaw that the club has folded. Sad.

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Quote: Deadcowboys1 "Don't disagree with this other than to say most successful people tend to be arrogant including dare I say it yourself. Unfortunately, Hughes & success where rugby league are concerned were never in the same bed.'"

On those occasions when i have been successful, I was always wary of the thinnest of lines between arrogance and self confidence and admit to having crosses it a number of times. What kept me (and still keeps me) grounded was the times i wasn't successful or made gross errors when I then had ro bw himble and accept defeat and or advice/help.
Hughes biggest problem was he wouldnt take advice from anyone, even The RFL. He would insteas double down on his errors and towards the end became more beligerent. 2 unexpected MPG wins which were 100% luck more than planning gave him a warm fuzzy feeling of success, but now his mismanagement of the important things has been laid bare doe all to see by IMG, he does that most arrogant of all things.....he walks away.
Instead of changing back to the broncos name and leaving the Stoop, if he had instead remained QuinsRL at TW2 and even just employed the sicial media from 2024, we would have scored much better than we did in the gradings. NOBODY ELSE IA TO BLAME.

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