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Quote: orangeman "Bongser buddy.....I defended Hughes when the RFL/SL Clubs/Lenegan left him holding the baby, but any support I had for him started to erode after the appointment of McKay, as well as his refusal to deal with McDermott's continued years of below average results, appointment of powell, returning to broncos but with a children's logo and the need to put RL on the url when RL was given as the reason for the change, the move away from the stoop with 225k rent cited as the reason (we pay the same if not more now in Wimbledon)......and buckets of poor decisions and recruitment since. Make no mistake....promotion to SL was a fluke and his reaction to relegation and then rejection in 2021 has been to throw his toys out of the pram and defund the club. So yeah.....I'm not a fan'"


Sorry, Orangeman, eyes obviously elsewhere on Saturday so didn't see your reply. A lot of what you say (whilst almost definitely true) is beyond Bongser's ken or remembrance. But he will say that, with the present play-off system, promotion to Super League is often a fluke. In the regular 2014 season, Leigh won the Champ at a canter but there was no promotion/relegation. 2015 saw us only lose one game (at Doncaster - wtf) and draw one late doors at Bradford. Comfy Champs (or rather this somewhat ugly League Leaders name) but just missed out on the wooden spoon in the Middle 8s. 2016 saw us lose one and draw one in the first four games after the last minute betrayal of Rowley before (ignoring the CCup) winning 29 games on the bounce to finally gain promotion (seem to remember a scary late resurgence from Broncos in the second (?) of the play-off matches).

Relegated (winning five) and shortly into the new season Mike Lathom (the Leigh chairman - nice to see him leading the team out at Spurs with a big grin on his face) had to talk Derek Beaumont out of walking away. Similarities there.

Think that we beat you three times in 2018 but you went up. In fact with 10 wins you made a damned fine fist of it but still came back down on points difference from Hull KR (the only club to have gone up and stayed up in recent years).

The artificial Toronto Wolfpack lost their only 6 games of a Covid19 hit season, withdrew from the remainder and were then wound up.

Leigh were arbitrarily promoted for 2021 (not even Google could've read all those dossiers before the decision was announced) and as sacrificial number fodder were duly relegated on a mere four points. 2022 sees Toulouse as the latest likely yoyo.

So yes going up can be a fluke, coming back down is (almost) a formality. Aspiring owners should know that already.

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Quote: BigTime "Was it as bad as it sounded on the radio Victor? We seem to start brightly then it all went down the toilet.'"

Watching it on TV, we were good for the first couple of minutes. Had an overlap, and threw the ball into touch. I think we got held up over the line a couple of times, and then the tide turned.

The first bit is definitely true, the last bit, I'm not sure: disappointment has blurred my memory.

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Quote: Benny Profane "Watching it on TV, we were good for the first couple of minutes. Had an overlap, and threw the ball into touch. I think we got held up over the line a couple of times, and then the tide turned.

The first bit is definitely true, the last bit, I'm not sure
What’s noticeable is how little invective there is on this strand. We’ve basically accepted this kind of thing will happen. Not good is it. Beaten by the bottom side by 14 - nearly half the match day team ex L1. Leigh and Rovers still to play at home. Fax as well. Sure they’ll be great games.....for the away fans.

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Think most of us knew we were a bottom of the table team as soon as we saw the squad. Something Hughes appears to be in denial over. So the defeats & poor performances don't surprise. As has been said many times, it's up to Hughes & Lobster to rationalise all this tripe but we've learnt not to hold our breath.

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Still do not believe we will survive as a club if we get relegated.

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Quote: crashmon "Still do not believe we will survive as a club if we get relegated.'"

If the club deserves to survive, it will. Personally I'd like to see them playing out of a small 1,000 capacity venue for a few years and getting back to being "The Broncos" without Hughes. Self sufficient through hard work, graft and grift and re-engaging with the audience. The club can survive on gates of 900 if it works cleverly.....but so long as Hughes does anything other than write a cheque at the start of the season, it'll suffer, so it's probably best he either give it to the fans or simply just walk away, because he's proven how utterly inept he is.......he still clings to his multi sport club Barcelona of the North idea from his days at Charlton. d040.gif
A few years at the bottom of the pile will make the club stronger (and more attractive to investors) when it starts to climb up.

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