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| Quote orangeman="orangeman"The question is, what will Hughes do when he realises that Monkey and Lobster outright bloody lied to him!
There was no need to move from Trailfinders. The corporate area never sold out, the bars were sufficient and the 3 stands were up to housing 2,500 if needed.
If you know you're going part time, stay there until the regular average attendance is 1,700........then look for potential new homes, or offer to build on the 4th side at Trailfinders.
To build your gates to 1,700, engage the local community............last local leaflet drop the club did was at Brentford. I may have mentioned this before,
but Griffin Park was the only ground we left with more fans than we arrived with!
Hughes as a long history of making bad decisions and I don't hold out for anything other than complete capitulation when we play our final home game to 300 fans before dropping into L1'"
The thing about Trailfinders is, the 980-seat new stand behind the goal only went half the width of the pitch. Extend it the full width, and replicate it at the other end if necessary (there's space to do so) and you have nearly 4,000 seats. OK, it might look a little odd compared to most stadiums but it would be more than we've averaged in the past 15 years. Then use the 'grandstand' for hospitality only, and let people stand on the other touchline as they had been. You'd be around the 6,000 mark - which is something we've never averaged.
So may of us said this again and again and again - there were a dozen issues the club needed to resolve before we even looked at the stadium.
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| Hooker Amir Bourouh signed from Salford on a two week loan deal and goes into the 21 for Sunday
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| Quote nadera78="nadera78"The thing about Trailfinders is, the 980-seat new stand behind the goal only went half the width of the pitch. Extend it the full width, and replicate it at the other end if necessary (there's space to do so) and you have nearly 4,000 seats. OK, it might look a little odd compared to most stadiums but it would be more than we've averaged in the past 15 years. Then use the 'grandstand' for hospitality only, and let people stand on the other touchline as they had been. You'd be around the 6,000 mark - which is something we've never averaged.
So may of us said this again and again and again - there were a dozen issues the club needed to resolve before we even looked at the stadium.'"
Once the stand behind the goal went in at Ealing the ground was perfectly adequate for championship rugby. I can only think we were told by super league, after 2019, that we wouldn't be let back to that level if playing there. Was the move driven by this idea of 20 "super league" teams in two divisions? That's my suspicion. As others have commented, all a bit of a joke when magic weekend can't fill a northern soccer stadium and top clubs struggle to attract 10,000.
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| Quote Halfdan of t'wide embrace="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"Hooker Amir Bourouh signed from Salford on a two week loan deal and goes into the 21 for Sunday'"
The Broncos certainly like a Hooker! Arguably doesn't that mean three of the best players are all playing in the same position?
A two week loan technically means he plays against York only, although in practice I assume it includes Barrow.
Can't argue though that every (good) player added to the squad can only help improve the team.
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| Quote Hockley Bronco="Hockley Bronco"Once the stand behind the goal went in at Ealing the ground was perfectly adequate for championship rugby. I can only think we were told by super league, after 2019, that we wouldn't be let back to that level if playing there. Was the move driven by this idea of 20 "super league" teams in two divisions? That's my suspicion. As others have commented, all a bit of a joke when magic weekend can't fill a northern soccer stadium and top clubs struggle to attract 10,000.'"
I believe Broncos were told they would not be readmitted to SL at Ealing. There was a serious discussion about blocking Broncos promotion after the million pound game, on the basis of ground grading. Certain parties were vociferously arguing for this but lost the argument . I'm told it was worryingly close at points.
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| If we sign any more Hookers, we should open a brothel.
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| Quote Smithers99="Smithers99"Not sure counting attendances is your forte, you always seem to count low!
I get your general point mind, but I'd suggest your nearly 50% short, although that is an improvement on your Portsmouth count!
There may have been a surge of sales in the last hour or so mind. I don't think all seats in 101-102 will be York fans based on previous matches. Even for Whitehaven (when the South Stand was closed) only some of the seats were away support.
Interestingly when I looked at the start of the week it looked around 400 including a handful in the South Stand. I'm not convinced though the same seats are now sold, perhaps there have been returns!'"
I think we are similar to what we had prior to Whitehaven at the same time (maybe slightly less), so this is what I based my view on (different than orangeman). I think we will be over 1K but less than Whitehaven which will still be going in the wrong direction on fans. You would think York are a bigger attraction than Haven so gates should be at least 1500 for this.
Also have a water bottle for kids is nice, but having your photo taken with a Mascot is more memorable IMHO, you can get a water bottle anywhere. So still no activities for kids, and the fans zone will probably be closed. But smithers99 have a pie on me
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| Quote crashmon="crashmon"I think we are similar to what we had prior to Whitehaven at the same time (maybe slightly less), so this is what I based my view on (different than orangeman). I think we will be over 1K but less than Whitehaven which will still be going in the wrong direction on fans. You would think York are a bigger attraction than Haven so gates should be at least 1500 for this.
Also have a water bottle for kids is nice, but having your photo taken with a Mascot is more memorable IMHO, you can get a water bottle anywhere. So still no activities for kids, and the fans zone will probably be closed. But smithers99 have a pie on me'"
Not certain we will reach the 1K, depends a lot on who (including us) are late purchasers and whether many of that "cateory" will attend. Hope I'm wrong and your closer to the mark.
With the South Stand closed I'm not sure MyPie will be there. They can park outside the pub, so it's possible they could open.
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| Quote Halfdan of t'wide embrace="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"I believe Broncos were told they would not be readmitted to SL at Ealing. There was a serious discussion about blocking Broncos promotion after the million pound game, on the basis of ground grading. Certain parties were vociferously arguing for this but lost the argument . I'm told it was worryingly close at points.'"
Whereas oddly in game where supporter levels are generally low and money at a premium playing out of. Big old barn with 3 of the 4 stands closed is what they are after.really, really dumb thinking. Just not helpful. Yes Ealing was a bit of a cricket ground but it had scope for expansion and the atmosphere with 2-3k in a 3/3.5k stadium was good. But Ealing is done. It was driven into the ground last year with crowds of paying guests sub 250 In my opinion.
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| Quote BigTime="BigTime"Whereas oddly in game where supporter levels are generally low and money at a premium playing out of. Big old barn with 3 of the 4 stands closed is what they are after.really, really dumb thinking. Just not helpful. Yes Ealing was a bit of a cricket ground but it had scope for expansion and the atmosphere with 2-3k in a 3/3.5k stadium was good. But Ealing is done. It was driven into the ground last year with crowds of paying guests sub 250 In my opinion.'"
And what caused this? The increase from £99 to £240 for Season ticket holders, while making the squad much weaker. One of the two people who came up with this madness has gone, the other is still in place and not for moving
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| Quote Smithers99="Smithers99"Not sure counting attendances is your forte, you always seem to count low!
I get your general point mind, but I'd suggest your nearly 50% short, although that is an improvement on your Portsmouth count!
There may have been a surge of sales in the last hour or so mind. I don't think all seats in 101-102 will be York fans based on previous matches. Even for Whitehaven (when the South Stand was closed) only some of the seats were away support.
Although I'm dubious of your attendance counting, I fully agree with your targeting of the Dewsbury match. Added benefit of being a Bank Holiday weekend so keep the entertainment / refreshments rolling post match. Linking it with Newcastle 12 days later would be an idea. Friday night, approaching longest day of the year. Those two matches just have to target the local community. And rather than feel sorry about the June break, the club needs to be lining up all attendees for the July/August games.
One thing that may not have been recognised about the football supporters is a large number are not local (or even close to local). It's hard to get them visit for another sport, a large number don't even go to every football match (30% of Season Ticket holders don't attend). Some pay but never use their seats. Targeting the local community is a must, but I'm not holding my breath.
Interestingly when I looked at the start of the week it looked around 400 including a handful in the South Stand. I'm not convinced though the same seats are now sold, perhaps there have been returns!'"
I agree I think the count is a little higher than OM has calculated. Inevitably though but it will be below the 750-1000 that I think would be unimpressive but acceptable and bring us back to pre-COVID levels.
In essence attendances aren’t really the point. A cunning plan to give away free tickets in bulk will no doubt lead to an end of year average of around 1000 allowing the club to indicate success. The problem is retention: who comes back and pays. The Widnes and Haven games were uncompetitive and dire respectively. Very few new prospective fans from the those 2 games will have been very impressed, many are unlikely to come again or give it one more shot. The off field effort was equally weak so we got no credit there. Dewsbury is the game to go for. The club should use any influence they have to try and get something in the media to raise awareness. Pack the club out with free tickets as well. If we lose that game it won’t matter in any event as I think relegation would be pretty likely but if we win and on and off field is decent progress might be made.
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