FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > London Broncos > Shane Richardson v Martyn Sadler
Posts:11
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
First Team Player1705No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20214 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
78489_1618348897.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78489.png



Martyn Saddler us currently defending his 1930's dream of a conference system by comparing th RFL with the NFL of the1960's over on totallrfacist.com.
It's folk like him and John Drake who try to steer the game through public opinion, but only if it matches their opinion.
Fanzines were great....but once the owners or moderators decided what could and couldn't be discussed, they become hymn sheets for the choir.
To be clear....he envisages the current RFL scenario with 1960 USA.......except the USA had college football as well as a new comp, the AFL to tqp.into, not to mention TV networks tripping over themselves.......Saddler reckons a Workington will get dragged up by losing by 50 to St Helens reserves and that SKY will bankroll it d040.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman192No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2022Mar 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: orangeman "Martyn Saddler's is as mad as a bag of spanners. '"


Absolutely. It is important to remember what he has done for the game and the sports press in the past, it is a great legacy undermined by the pompous buffoon he has beome.

Quote: orangeman "It is 100% unworkable and designed to pander to people who hark for the good old days. It would do little for the development of the game with the top clubs still hoovering up the best talent and the same clubs featuring at the end of the year.
Richardson's is a bit better.....I definitely think we need an independent commission to run the sport.

Mine? A stronger Top tier with a clear pathway to get into it is key....if we move to licencing then there needs to be some cold hard decisions made...no more bullcrap smoke and mirrors about new stadiums....either build them or bugger off. And mergers....they need to happen. Castleford and Wakefield need to merge and build one new stadium......and then work to attract a 12k average gate.
If London are involved, then SL or whatever it's called need to own the club a la storm.....if sky want change then they need to get their chequebook out. There needs to be a 10 year plan, visited after 24, 60 and 84 months with progress being rewarded and failure to hit targets resulting in reduced funding.....

Personally....3 teams from Manchester, a team from Liverpool, 3 from Yorkshire as well as a hull side and 4 other sides......all with a clear set of targets they must adhere to. I'd remove the cap but have stricter rules on overseas trained players. All clubs would run academy's as well as a ladies side. Benefactors will be fine, but clubs will have a minimum target to hit of income from fans & Sponsors. Also clear targets for community work
A collective marketing team.....pushing the comp as well as helping teams who need it most.
But clear understanding that your place at the top table is dependent on you pulling your weight.
Get it up and running....once it's working the independent commission can negotiate with media.....if we have 6 games a week averaging 15k in the stadiums then we will have a product to sell....currently it seems like post covid, many fans have found other things to do......and Saddler's plan for st Helens to murder Workington twice a year is insane.....although if it come to be, I'd want us in conference 3 which looks like a 2nd tier comp already...
I see two major problems for Super League.
Firstly, the debate about franchises/P&R etc boils down to how fill the twelve available Suer League places from the seven suitable candidates. That means, about five places going to clubs who do not have a strong case and the dividing line being arbitary.
The second issue is Super League was designed in the 90's to sell satellite dishes to a new national broadcaster that needed subscribers. That was cutting edge at the time and is outdated now.

I will respectfully disagree with the look towards Liverpool and Manchester. Machester in particular is about as competitve a sports market as anywhere on Earth. no-one can look at Manchester and think, "Here is a city that just lacks some top class sport". Compare it to other cities (Dublin, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Basel) and the situation is stark.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman192No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2022Mar 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: orangeman "Martyn Saddler us currently defending his 1930's dream of a conference system by comparing th RFL with the NFL of the1960's over on totallrfacist.com.
It's folk like him and John Drake who try to steer the game through public opinion, but only if it matches their opinion.
Fanzines were great....but once the owners or moderators decided what could and couldn't be discussed, they become hymn sheets for the choir.
To be clear....he envisages the current RFL scenario with 1960 USA.......except the USA had college football as well as a new comp, the AFL to tqp.into, not to mention TV networks tripping over themselves.......Saddler reckons a Workington will get dragged up by losing by 50 to St Helens reserves and that SKY will bankroll it
John Drake is a reasonable man. His boss in Martyn Sadler. What can he do? Work for one of the UK's other major publishers in rugby league?

RankPostsTeam
First Team Player1705No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20214 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
78489_1618348897.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78489.png



Quote: Bob8 "John Drake is a reasonable man. His boss in Martyn Sadler. What can he do? Work for one of the UK's other major publishers in rugby league?'"

I was banned from total years ago for predicting that the game in the UK was shrinking to the extent that it would end up with smaller income streams. I suggested league copy unions model and stop letting the tail wag the dog (clubs run the game)
I was branded a union troll by the majority and banned due to complaints received.
Fast forward and we're exactly where I said we'd be.....with maybe 5 or 6 clubs running the game, no international structure and finding being reduced from bottom up.
Just watched a full Twickenham and murryfield generate more income for their respective unions in one day than SL gets for a year......it doesn't make me a troll....just a realist, but drake doesn't like debate or discord on his boards.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman192No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2022Mar 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: orangeman "I was banned from total years ago for predicting that the game in the UK was shrinking to the extent that it would end up with smaller income streams. I suggested league copy unions model and stop letting the tail wag the dog (clubs run the game)
I was branded a union troll by the majority and banned due to complaints received.
Fast forward and we're exactly where I said we'd be.....with maybe 5 or 6 clubs running the game, no international structure and finding being reduced from bottom up.
Just watched a full Twickenham and murryfield generate more income for their respective unions in one day than SL gets for a year......it doesn't make me a troll....just a realist, but drake doesn't like debate or discord on his boards.'"


I have made similar predictions, but was not banned for that. I think the game has a choice of going more international, i.e. if we want twelve viable markets we will have to export to them.

Martyn Sadler is posting under a pseudonym there posing as a regular rugby league fan. When he posts as a regular rugby league fan, he adopts a boorish and moronic persona, which tells you what he thinks of us generally. Writing that got me banned icon_biggrin.gif

Posts:11
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
Posts:11
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.6767578125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Film game
karetaker
5580
11m
Out of contract 2025
Wires71
57
18m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40711
31m
Leeds away first up
WT_Midlander
36
35m
WCC Off
Warrior Wing
8
39m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63205
46m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Mark_P1973
8
55m
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
59
60m
Pre Season - 2025
Faithful One
179
Recent
2025 fixtures
Lord Tony Sm
13
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Leeds away first up
WT_Midlander
36
1m
2025 fixtures
Lord Tony Sm
13
2m
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
2m
Pre Season - 2025
Faithful One
179
2m
Fixtures
Trojan Horse
7
2m
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Stanfax
52
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
2m
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
15
3m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Mark_P1973
8
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Lord Tony Sm
13
TODAY
Fixtures
Trojan Horse
7
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Leeds away first up
WT_Midlander
36
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
ArthurClues
27
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
15
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
216
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
452
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1232
England's Women Demolish The W..
1057
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1295
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1087
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1346
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1891
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2113
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2356
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1929
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2165
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2633
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2058
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2138
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,870 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Film game
karetaker
5580
11m
Out of contract 2025
Wires71
57
18m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40711
31m
Leeds away first up
WT_Midlander
36
35m
WCC Off
Warrior Wing
8
39m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63205
46m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Mark_P1973
8
55m
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
59
60m
Pre Season - 2025
Faithful One
179
Recent
2025 fixtures
Lord Tony Sm
13
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Leeds away first up
WT_Midlander
36
1m
2025 fixtures
Lord Tony Sm
13
2m
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
2m
Pre Season - 2025
Faithful One
179
2m
Fixtures
Trojan Horse
7
2m
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Stanfax
52
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
2m
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
15
3m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Mark_P1973
8
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Lord Tony Sm
13
TODAY
Fixtures
Trojan Horse
7
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Leeds away first up
WT_Midlander
36
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
ArthurClues
27
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
15
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
216
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
452
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1232
England's Women Demolish The W..
1057
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1295
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1087
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1346
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1891
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2113
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2356
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1929
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2165
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2633
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2058
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2138


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!