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I think part of the sky deal was competition, and that means winners and losers! That includes demotion, like it or dislike it, if teams place in the top flight is guaranteed then you get to the point where games don’t mean a lot apart from pride in league position for teams at the bottom.

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It’s. Yawnion who cares?

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: northernbloke "It’s. Yawnion who cares?'"

Adam Pearson does :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: northernbloke "Dog, quote as many numbers as you wish.'"
Thank you. Numbers are a factual statistic that can't lie. They do not impact on your opinion, but in this case, they do show that whilst we have stagnated, they have grown by 120% in terms of fans in attendance.
Quote: northernbloke "It’s yawnion I really have very little interest in the game.'"
20 years ago they had fewer fans, no TV deal and nothing more than a domestic competition......now they absolutely dwarf us in all those areas including TV audience and income. We should be interested in learning how they have done this.
Quote: northernbloke "I have an interest in Bath only because I lived there.'"
Nice place......
Quote: northernbloke "Who is we?'"
"we" is the RL fan collective that decry anything we perceive as "against us" be that the BBC, the RFU or anyone else whilst refusing to accept we are masters of our own destiny and architects of our own downfall!

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Yes and they went from being an amateur sport to a professional sport.
Q have the overall gate figures for RL gone up in the period you mention? Think even your figures show that the teams that are still in the top flight have increased numbers therefore not stagnant.
Who on here has tried to say anyone has anything against us? Certainly not me! I don’t like watching yawnion, but I don’t knock anyone that does!

Learning from RU “we” as a collective can do nothing so “we” can learn nothing!

“We” follow a sport that is played by different rules in different countries, and another set of rules internationally, until that is sorted the sport will never be taken seriously by the general public.

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