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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: TaRL PaRL "Feel I have finally arrived on this forum being abused by Gutterfax! Glad I made you smile.'"

That's not abuse Petal...it's reality.
Barnet was a plastic pitch and we gave him everything including 100k from the RFL yet he couldn't wait to see the back of us.....you're dreaming if you think that any club would welcome a nomadic entity with a few hundred aging hard core fans free of charge in return for tickets to a sport that's not even popular in some of its heartland areas and is watched by fewer that 1,000 people a week in the capital.
Thanks for the back of the beer mat statistics and supposition by the way......flip it over and come back with some figures on stewarding, Public Liability insurance, Police costs, staffing on match day, office access, gymnasium access and all the other things we get at the wedding venue currently.....and which we used to get included at the Stoop before the relationship went south. d040.gif

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Quote: Call Me God "Barnet was a plastic pitch '"
No it was a very nice grass surface !

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That Barnet pitch is Tony Kleanthous pride and joy. Access was very limited during our spell there.

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Barnet was a really nice grass surface. The plastic pitches were the training/5 a side pitches

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If it had been plastic and the terms could have been more acceptable, I think we could have sealed a reasonable medium term future there, but .....

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: PC Plum "If it had been plastic and the terms could have been more acceptable, I think we could have sealed a reasonable medium term future there, but .....'"

My bad....I only went there the once for the last hurrah v Bradford. As for terms.......he only took us in because he got a back-hander and once he saw the lack of numbers he was never going to be welcoming....it was also a pig of a ground to get to for most home supporters.

Back on topic. London Irish have the green light to share at Brentford's new ground from 2019 and to my mind, that could and should have been us.

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