Feel I have finally arrived on this forum being abused by Gutterfax! Glad I made you smile.

Probably not going to get me anywhere but let me explain Manuel.

Stadia are very expensive and can only be used for 2-4 hours a week because the grass gives up. The introduction of plastic pitches will increase the available supply of stadia facilites by at least a factor of 5, you can play matches on them Thursday and Friday night, and twice on Saturday and Sunday. You can also train on them during the day and have the odd mid-week match. The demand for stadia for professional sport in the area of the stadia will not increase 5 fold. This will mean the price will drop as it already has. This is a commercial principle called supply and demand.

One worked example for you. Rosslyn Park have a plastic pitch in the same area of London as Quins, but a bit more central. They charge £250 now for pitch hire of their 3,000 capacity stadia. Quins used to charge £25,000 per game to RL for a 12,000 seater grass stadia. If they build the new 25,000 seater plastic pitch stadia I doubt they could get more 10 times Rosslyn Park per pop : £2,500 a game, say £37,500 a RL season. They would get many more hires though. The present capacity is about 14,000 so they will need 11,000 more bums on seats at an average season ticket price of £500, that would raise £5,500,000. If running all year round rugby could help them achieve 1% of that, it would be worth £55,000 about 50% more than they could get renting the ground to Broncos. Perhaps they should pay us for teaming up with them!

No it was a very nice grass surface !

That Barnet pitch is Tony Kleanthous pride and joy. Access was very limited during our spell there.

Barnet was a really nice grass surface. The plastic pitches were the training/5 a side pitches

If it had been plastic and the terms could have been more acceptable, I think we could have sealed a reasonable medium term future there, but .....

My bad....I only went there the once for the last hurrah v Bradford. As for terms.......he only took us in because he got a back-hander and once he saw the lack of numbers he was never going to be welcoming....it was also a pig of a ground to get to for most home supporters.

Back on topic. London Irish have the green light to share at Brentford's new ground from 2019 and to my mind, that could and should have been us.