Wq you read any of the thread. Bad planning is bad planning!
If you start a business that relies on local support, building that support one year knowing that it's highly unlikely you can deliver the promised goods the following year is simply daft.
Quote: Call Me God "'tis my recollection that the biggest "dummy spit" was Sky moving a game day in France for Quins v Catalans.....meaning that about 30 or so fans were actually in the air heading back to London when the game was kicking off.......some bloke called fax in the gutter or some other like-name was invited to Parliament for his aggressive stance towards Murdoch and the RFL thinking that they own the game when in fact it is actually us fans that own and pay for the game.......I do often wonder what happened to that stalwart of reality?
Toronto bled cash last year and will do so this......if they don't go up then it'll soon become apparent that the "rich blokes" toy isn't worth the investment.....I've had reports from Toronto residents that what we perceive here isn't actually what's happening there......8k gates were nothing like 8k and their core support is in the 3 hundreds......with an awful lot of freebies and favours being dished out.......it's an expensive habit this RL thing....just ask Dave
You're absolutely correct. They owe money everywhere including Kit Supplier, Car Rentals (Noble and his wife plus Vickers and the Rowley family all have nice cars in the UK for when they are here) Physio and Medical suppliers, other clubs for hospitality......the list goes on.
You also have the small matter of them having about 3 different companies set up in the UK with Perez and Argyle resigning only to be replaced by Noble on the first day the company was set up.
Add to that Adam Fogerty is hunting Perez down for double dealing antics against him you have quite a different picture being built.
It is fairly obvious they never once got anything like 7000 in that stadium, even the least observant guy in the World would have spotted the numbers in the stands didn't look anything close to even 4000 and having spoken to Perez several times I can assure you the guy is an absolute idiot off his head on Canabis most of the time and when not stoned he is like an angry little puppy walking around muttering 'we're f***ing Toronto' or other rubbish. I spoke to the guy who heads up Premier Sports in the UK at the RFL Championships dinner and he said the game day experience there was no different to Hunslet or Dewsbury other than some ridiculous people with a drum dressed in fancy dress and silly Wolf noises all through the game. They have beer tents, two open air stands and merchandise for sale from a trestle table under a gazebo.
And people thought the biggest challenge they faced this year was keeping the squad sober
Still they have a hot dog gun and are a breath of fresh air to the game. People need to wake up, they are all smoke and mirrors, why do you think Craig Hall left? Nothing like what he signed up for.
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg
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