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Quote Perry="Perry" You're the only one who went on the attack.'"
I'd beg to differ.
Quote Perry="Perry"Belying your remoteness again. It's next to one of the worst estates in west London.'"
And for the record, you'd specifically have to go out of your way to cross the estate to get to the ground. It's over the railway lines and masked by a long line of very high trees......and as I have already shown, is being regenerated.
Interesting that you question my accuracy and ability to identify facts and figures from across the world but you yourself are still unsure of developments just down the road?
Quote Perry="Perry"I thought Plough Lane had houses built on it?'"
can I suggest a visit to www.google.com?
Back on thread.
Quote Perry="Perry"This is where we get into the nitty gritty of exactly what the charitable trust own.
Quite often with sports clubs, the freehold for the land is owned by a trust or other external body, but the actual stands, clubhouse, etc. are owned by the club. That enables the club to develop the ground as they need, but prevents some shyster buying the club to just to get their hands on the freehold.
If (and I realise it's a bif 'if') that is the model at Trailfinders, is it just possible that we might be offering to help fund expansion of the ground? And in the process secure ourselves a home?
Forlorn hope I know...'"
As I pointed out earlier, there is a plot of land behind the main pitch towards Vallis Way that appears to have only a handful of houses who would be "adversely" affected by a stand on that side of the pitch. There is a school/special school and also the residents of Hathaway Gardens and Claremont Rd to consider too not to mention all the surrounding streets that could be affected by increased traffic on match day etc.
As I have also pointed out, there is NO current planning applications in with Ealing Council....who are a Labour Council and the bloke that owns Trailfinders (and set up the charitable trust) is a Tory funder to the tune of 7 figure donations.......so if Hughes is agreeing to contribute to a new stand/development, it may well be some years off, as planning permission doesn't happen quickly in London!
I've also previously posted that previous developments such as the cricket pavilion (like for like replacement) floodlights and the liquor licence were all objected to by local residenst..... |
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Quote Perry="Perry" You're the only one who went on the attack.'"
I'd beg to differ.
Quote Perry="Perry"Belying your remoteness again. It's next to one of the worst estates in west London.'"
And for the record, you'd specifically have to go out of your way to cross the estate to get to the ground. It's over the railway lines and masked by a long line of very high trees......and as I have already shown, is being regenerated.
Interesting that you question my accuracy and ability to identify facts and figures from across the world but you yourself are still unsure of developments just down the road?
Quote Perry="Perry"I thought Plough Lane had houses built on it?'"
can I suggest a visit to www.google.com?
Back on thread.
Quote Perry="Perry"This is where we get into the nitty gritty of exactly what the charitable trust own.
Quite often with sports clubs, the freehold for the land is owned by a trust or other external body, but the actual stands, clubhouse, etc. are owned by the club. That enables the club to develop the ground as they need, but prevents some shyster buying the club to just to get their hands on the freehold.
If (and I realise it's a bif 'if') that is the model at Trailfinders, is it just possible that we might be offering to help fund expansion of the ground? And in the process secure ourselves a home?
Forlorn hope I know...'"
As I pointed out earlier, there is a plot of land behind the main pitch towards Vallis Way that appears to have only a handful of houses who would be "adversely" affected by a stand on that side of the pitch. There is a school/special school and also the residents of Hathaway Gardens and Claremont Rd to consider too not to mention all the surrounding streets that could be affected by increased traffic on match day etc.
As I have also pointed out, there is NO current planning applications in with Ealing Council....who are a Labour Council and the bloke that owns Trailfinders (and set up the charitable trust) is a Tory funder to the tune of 7 figure donations.......so if Hughes is agreeing to contribute to a new stand/development, it may well be some years off, as planning permission doesn't happen quickly in London!
I've also previously posted that previous developments such as the cricket pavilion (like for like replacement) floodlights and the liquor licence were all objected to by local residenst..... | |
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| Quote Jim Pooley="Jim Pooley"Blah, blah, blah, self serving tosh, blah...'"
I said I thought Plough Lane had houses on it, and you went on the attack. The usual unneccessary personal stuff. Several posters have said I was correct. You accuse them of "not reading the thread" because they failed to agree with you. They read it alright, and called you out, but you're too egotistical to back away.
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Ten pages of rubbish! all about something that is still speculation!
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| Quote Perry="Perry"I said I thought Plough Lane had houses on it, and you went on the attack. The usual unneccessary personal stuff. Several posters have said I was correct. You accuse them of "not reading the thread" because they failed to agree with you. They read it alright, and called you out, but you're too egotistical to back away.
Why are you so narcissistic?'"
Are you really that slow?
1. You claimed that I was unable to comment on the location of the potential new ground because I live far away, but you were, even though your assessment was wrong and mine was correct.
2. You weren't sure of the development of plough lane, but I was....even from 12k miles away |
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| Quote jaybs="jaybs"Ten pages of rubbish! all about something that is still speculation!'"
Its not speculation...........it is a done deal. |
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my god what a pathetic thread. No wonder quite a few don't come on here.
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When are the children going !!! Can't stand this forum.
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| Quote Perry="Perry"This is where we get into the nitty gritty of exactly what the charitable trust own.
Quite often with sports clubs, the freehold for the land is owned by a trust or other external body, but the actual stands, clubhouse, etc. are owned by the club. That enables the club to develop the ground as they need, but prevents some shyster buying the club to just to get their hands on the freehold.
If (and I realise it's a bif 'if') that is the model at Trailfinders, is it just possible that we might be offering to help fund expansion of the ground? And in the process secure ourselves a home?
Forlorn hope I know...'" Many, many years ago, Liverpool City RLFC played at the magnificent Knotty Ash Stadium. They developed it, within their meagre means, mainly by fencing it and erecting a nice little grandstand which had become surplus to requirements at either Saints or Widnes. The fact that the land was owned by a nearby Carmelite convent was apparently of little issue, though no doubt permission had to be obtained.
The convent did however reclaim the land, I guess when the lease expired, maybe 30 or so years later, prompting the disastrous move to Huyton. |
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| Quote BroncOnIon="BroncOnIon"Many, many years ago, Liverpool City RLFC played at the magnificent Knotty Ash Stadium. They developed it, within their meagre means, mainly by fencing it and erecting a nice little grandstand which had become surplus to requirements at either Saints or Widnes. The fact that the land was owned by a nearby Carmelite convent was apparently of little issue, though no doubt permission had to be obtained.
The convent did however reclaim the land, I guess when the lease expired, maybe 30 or so years later, prompting the disastrous move to Huyton.'"
I guess this stuff can cut both ways.
I know that Nottingham City Council own the freehold to both football grounds (Meadow Lane and the City Ground), which is why when some dodgy con artists bought Notts County thinking they'd get their hands on the freehold they came unstuck (though not before fleecing about £200k out of the club).
Trouble is, it only takes one money grabbing council to put the freeholds up for sale, and it could all go to pot. |
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| Quote jaybs="jaybs"Ten pages of rubbish! all about something that is still speculation!'"
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Quote BroncOnIon="BroncOnIon"Many, many years ago, Liverpool City RLFC played at the magnificent Knotty Ash Stadium. They developed it, within their meagre means, mainly by fencing it and erecting a nice little grandstand which had become surplus to requirements at either Saints or Widnes. The fact that the land was owned by a nearby Carmelite convent was apparently of little issue, though no doubt permission had to be obtained.
The convent did however reclaim the land, I guess when the lease expired, maybe 30 or so years later, prompting the disastrous move to Huyton.'"
Nuns!
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Quote BroncOnIon="BroncOnIon"Many, many years ago, Liverpool City RLFC played at the magnificent Knotty Ash Stadium. They developed it, within their meagre means, mainly by fencing it and erecting a nice little grandstand which had become surplus to requirements at either Saints or Widnes. The fact that the land was owned by a nearby Carmelite convent was apparently of little issue, though no doubt permission had to be obtained.
The convent did however reclaim the land, I guess when the lease expired, maybe 30 or so years later, prompting the disastrous move to Huyton.'"
Nuns!
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