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Quote: Paul T - HKR "Whilst the revolving door at my club has fallen off its hinges, both Cas and Salford have once again had a high turnover of players (roughly 10 each in both directions - ins/outs) which makes them susceptible for the bottom 4 in SL.

Its my view one of the Hull clubs will miss out on the play-offs, with either Cas/Salford making the 8 or the lower tier - I think most people are of the opinion Wakefield and Widnes will struggle this season.

TBH I hope Cas do make the 8. IMO they have made 2 very good signings in Gale and Roberts although the loss of Huby and Huaraki is immense. Meanwhile Koucash seems to have pinned his hopes on ex-Kr Dobson - the question is can he forge a partnership with Chase? If they click then they have the pack to get them into the play-offs.

As for the Hull clubs (and trying not to be too bias) apart from Minichello I don't think FCs recruitment is solid enough to make the 8, whereas KRs chances rest on a whole team coming together and doing a Cas - mind you Campese and Kelly do whet the appetite. Both Hull clubs have the packs to win the arm wrestle they just need their back lines to fire - IMO KRs looks the most potent and will scrape us into the 8.'"


Campese really could go either way, and there's a fair chance he'll disappoint looking at age and form. Im a bit biased toward Cas as I like them as a club but they have a proven coach and seem to have a really good culture in the team of working for each other. Hull and KR are both strong enough to make the 8 and will pick up some good wins next year but I expect them to be inconsistent and lose a fair few too.

Not a big fan of Dobson, but they have a lot of strike at Salford now and will be able to get themselves out of some tricky positions with their pace as long as they're half-way competitive in the middle. There's still a big question mark of Iestyn though for me, knowledgeable and hard-working he may be but does he inspire his players?

Will be a very interesting season.

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Quote: Southern Reiver "Agree though with some of your other comments as the team really should be performing. The TR it'll take 5/6 weeks has already been trotted out.'"

3 Months pre-season training and conditioning and the only conclusions I can currently come to are that:
We underestimated this division
We hired another untested coach who has turned out to be out of his depth
We have recruited badly AGAIN
We have no plan B.

All of the above lead back to Hughes inability to make god decisions or even take advice from those who know better.

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Quote: enigmatic "3 Months pre-season training and conditioning and the only conclusions I can currently come to are that

I think the god decisions are down to Grima.

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Quote: jbuzza "I think the god decisions are down to Grima.'"

Well spotted.....anyone else would have crucified me for that!

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McGuire was an untested coach when he took the Wigan role, the rest is history.

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Quote: wire quin "McGuire was an untested coach when he took the Wigan role, the rest is history.'"


Maguire learnt his craft in the NRL at the top level from one of the best coaches in the business in an apprenticeship lasting close to 10 years.

Hughes has employed not one, but 2 totally unprepared coaches sandwidging 1 failed one over the last 4 seasons.......

In League competitions to date that Hughes formula has delivered 19 wins, 3 Draws and 86 losses from 108 games....he is as crap at finding and appointing coaches as he was with CEO's for the club.

Grima has delivered 2 from 16 (or is it 17) games......at what point does Hughes put his hands up and admit he's got it wrong again? Grima is a long way from home (as are some of his mates that he signed) so I doubt he'll fall on his sword, but to us "outsiders" it looks like he has been bankrolled to get us back up and thus far, has failed miserably.
We could well be on just 2 points 3 weeks in, with a quite unhealthy +/- figure....already -30, so 4 points and 66+/- behind the league leaders and 2nd is nowhere in this league!

Whitehaven, Workington and Halifax are must win games. For me, if we aren't on 8 points by the end of March Grima has to go.

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