To be honest not much this season. But the players with the odd exception gave nothing last night - they were defeated before evening stepping on the pitch. Collection of kids, but not all. Plenty of players with experience on the pitch last night.

Unfortunately the fans are not helping, and I include myself by way of this post. It is such a shame.

Both horror shows for sure, but for me the worst was the game against Wigan at the Stoop last year where they weren't even trying and could be clearly seen not to be!

Thankfully I missed that one.

That was my last game too. Completely predictable what has happened this season, but depressing all the same.

Missed the home game v Wigan last year or maybe it's just erased itself from my memory. The cup SF at Leigh takes some beating though.

Have to agree the lack of competitiveness this season was always predictable but last night's show was truly depressing. Sent me to bed early.


On another note, look who's here:


Are you going to talk to us, rupe1? You always did come out of the woodwork at the worst of times.

Agreed.

Plus, they're playing against more powerful sides all around the park, so, no matter how much effort they put in, the defence is going to get breached consistently. Last night I saw many of them busting a gut - goodness knows what the score would have been if they hadn't. It wasn't passion they were lacking it was power.

The regret for me is only being able to see in flashes the talent in the side. They're so occupied keeping the juggernauts at bay that they hardly get their hands on the ball and when they do they don't have the grunt to make any space to exploit.

JOC is the classic example. Against Ryan Hall last week and Justin Carney this week. Please! He can make three heroic efforts on the trot but he's not going to do it a fourth or a fifth time, and all his previous good work will be overlooked as he flaps hopelessly at a passing winger or centre as he tries to defend an overlap created initially by some big sod in the middle of the field.

TR can't correct this by wishing it away. You can't dominate if you aren't strong enough and there's no point criticising players for failing to do what is beyond them in the first place.

The tough season is only going to get tougher. We can carry on slagging them off or support them. Or I suppose there's a third option ...

Be interesting to hear him actually. He was saying years before people like GF about London going down the drain and how people tolerate poor performances on the field and how people would leave...... as well as other stuff that was way off the mark of course.

He was a fan from Fulham days and clearly had had enough before a lot of others on here.

I think that's a very fair assessment, thanks for posting.

As i said to my kids, they were bigger than us, stronger than us, fitter than us, faster than us and were more skillful and better drilled than us. And so it has been all along this season. I can't see that our personnel will change much now so what we have on the park is what we will see throughout the season. I don't think that they are going to get better now because moral and confidence has allready started to take its toll.

Just watched the Saints v Leeds game. Saints play with a team of kids and win.

Nathan Brown used the word desire. You might be limited with skill but everyone has desire. This is what TR doesnt appear to be able to inspire.

He has inspired desire in me to watch Rugby League somewhere else.