Widnes actually scored 5 trys, but kicked 1 conversion. On a normal day anybody would expect to convert at least 3 which would have equated to 27-24. And this was against St.Helens... who scored 4 trys and converted the lot!!!

You're right. Look at Cas - absolutely woeful against Widnes last Monday, yet look what they did yesterday to Hudds. And they're still missing Chase. Teams pick themselves up after a drubbing. We don't.

What is hard to bear is the fact that [sizewe haven't won games that we should have won[/size, such as the home games against Bradford and Hull and the [sizeaway games against Salford [/sizeand Widnes. That is what really grates.'"

Red Mountain - I was talking about that game in the context of our season. Previous to our game, Broncos had lost four games the last of which had seen a decent performance against Hudds. If Broncos were going to turn things around, it was reasonable to expect that they could start with a further improved performance against Salford and possibly a win.

However, as we know, Broncos were absolute rubbish at Salford (I was there) and for me, the writing was on the wall for Broncos from the final whistle.

No arguments from me or anyone on these boards....Salford are a much better side than London. Well done to them.

The funniest thing having actually gone to the game, the highlight being seeing at least Lovell scoring try and getting drunk again, we have a benchmark now, we know its bad, let's get on with it, let's just make it our season goal to actually complete a set of six and finish with a tasty punt , at least next year we can move on in front of 800 people next year and carry on enjoying the beer

Is Lovell going to make SL level? He has the size for a centre but has he shown anything to say he has the ability?