They seem to be living in the past. The game has moved on from being about territory and five drives andf a kick.

drop as many backs as you like, that won't solve the problem of the forwards playing like girls. 1-17 we are very poor apart from 1 or 2 exceptions, simply judging performances on the number of missed tackles is silly IMO.

Sorry double post.

Indeed. Observations based on a five minute vid of tries scored is not an accurate indication of the whole game or indeed season. However, there seemed to be a couple of concurrent themes in the tries conceded against Salford.

Sadly no. 3 was supporters' player of the year last season, no. 4 has been well-known as an ineffective tackler ever since he came back from his serious arm injury (tendon separation wasn't it?) and no. 6 has always been a defensive liability - I well remember being slagged off by one "expert" on here when I pointed this out during the general celebrations when we signed him.

Jeez ....you mean he already had a reputation as a bad tackler? Im shocked that we signed him then seeing as we have such a poor defensive record already. May as well have just kept Sargy there and signed a youngster as a backup. Wonder who made the decision to go for him. Witt was always good as an attacking/kicking player at Crusaders getting lots of praise.

JOC always gets credit from the supporters because of his effort. Still not got the hang of defensive positioning and tackling.