i said it before something seriously wrong there, players obviously not playing for the coach, or dont understand the coach

drop as many backs as you like, that won't solve the problem of the forwards playing like girls. 1-17 we are very poor apart from 1 or 2 exceptions, simply judging performances on the number of missed tackles is silly IMO.

Sorry double post.

Indeed. Observations based on a five minute vid of tries scored is not an accurate indication of the whole game or indeed season. However, there seemed to be a couple of concurrent themes in the tries conceded against Salford.

Sadly no. 3 was supporters' player of the year last season, no. 4 has been well-known as an ineffective tackler ever since he came back from his serious arm injury (tendon separation wasn't it?) and no. 6 has always been a defensive liability - I well remember being slagged off by one "expert" on here when I pointed this out during the general celebrations when we signed him.

Jeez ....you mean he already had a reputation as a bad tackler? Im shocked that we signed him then seeing as we have such a poor defensive record already. May as well have just kept Sargy there and signed a youngster as a backup. Wonder who made the decision to go for him. Witt was always good as an attacking/kicking player at Crusaders getting lots of praise.

JOC always gets credit from the supporters because of his effort. Still not got the hang of defensive positioning and tackling.