Match report Wire v Broncos

When does it become a coaching issue, didn't see today, but saw the skolars game, and the signs don't seem good.

A heavy friendly defeat in France, a win over Skolars and two defeats to St Helens and Warrington.

Name changes, player changes, but still the same coaching team and set-up, The coaching team if you take it a stage further are basically McDermotts staff with no changes and new input for over 3 seasons, other than a change in conditioner.

Not knocking Powell seems a decent bloke, and has publicly dealt with everything thrown at him with great dignity, I have no doubt he is badged and qualified to the hilt, but can people see any progression. The last two seasons were difficult, all sorts of stories about where we were with the salary cap, an ageing thin squad, so there were issues, even issues with the clubs super league future.

This season story, we are giving it a go, we change our name and image, we recruit and we are told we are up to our salary cap limit, not sure if this includes Mr Hickey (who im told we having to pay off) and still we persist with exactly the same coaching team, before the first game we are told we not yet firing and have some way to go before we are up to speed.

I have been on a number of coaching course over the years, where I see coaches who are qualified to the hilt, but have never managed or controlled a squad of players, technically brilliant and clever sharp and can set up coaching sessions all day long, could they manage a team and the day to day issues of managing players 99per cent of them...no, can they change tat-tics mid game as a game changes....no, can they talk to players...no, can they motivate....

Players play for managers who can get the best out of them, and who they believe in. Good managers learn and then know what makes a group of players tick, it has to be two way thing. Players will play for managers they respect and understand both on and off the pitch, I would suggest it would take a truly exceptional manager/coach at Mr Powells age and top level experience age to win over and mould an ever changing mediocre squad with all the problems that have gone on the last three years.

Mr Powell as I understand, never played the game other than at uni, has managed South London Storm, and the U20s, then went on to being an assistant to Mac. I think we understand that you don't need to have played the game at the top level to be a good coach/manager, but there aren't many exceptions to this rule.

Has he really the experience, with all due respect I'm guessing no, is that his fault no, have the senior players let him down, not sure. Just a thought, were has he got his player management skills from, who does he turn to for advice.

I would imagine its a tough and lonely job when you are learning your trade in such a high level job, Super league is full of people with far more playing and management experience that will never get anywhere near the top job and managing a super league club.

On what we know, what did we really expect from him, Given his experience and what he has had to work with.