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Quote: Dave Lister "Sound like cliques to me.

And the 18th man stunt has been pulled before by Wigan - everyone cringed.'"


Perhaps League fans over here are just more passionate and enjoy getting together in the support of one cause. It creates a better atmosphere for the games and often turns into a challenge of between support bases who can make the most noise and atmosphere.

One of the worse things in the NRL is when the away fans get a loud and clear chant going for their team at your home ground.

An organised social group set up for fans to support and a follow a club around the country is a sign of how big a sport is and how much a community feels/needs/wants a club. A professional sporting teams without a supporter groups is pretty poor to be honest.

As for the 18th stunt, 90% of the fans at games now have merchandise with 18 on it. Members and fans and the Bulldogs now have a reputation among other fans for it now.

Other teams have similar things to it. All have been a marketing success.

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Quote: sogspurs "Getting away from all these insults the NRL armies idea sounds good but when you think about it we do most of that stuff already on here. We have clubbed together to make flags and used to sponsor players, discuss where to meet and how to get to away games. I don't think this forum has had a social event that wasn't organised by the club though, but really this forum is like a supporters club in the sense of supporting the team, its just not officially recognised.
It's a tough question of what role we want the new supporters club to play but I think it's a good idea forming one and seeing what can happen with it'"



yes, there are many advantages of a supporters group. Supporter groups over here typical get rewards only available to them and often a club who is after the 'supporters voice' will go and ask their supporters group on marketing matters.

I'm pretty sure they get their own specific member section (season ticketed member) at a cheaper price then the rest of the members (or season ticketed members).

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Quote: Hull Kingston Bronco "Erm, I'm pretty sure that would all be stuff people whose descendants are you Aussies did, not ours. I suppose all the forced adoptions, stealing aboriginal children, in the 20th century are the Brits fault too are they? Or maybe the "white Australia" immigration policy that continued through to the '70s? Backwaters often have attitudes that lag behind modern times...'"


First white people to ever kill or rape an Indigenous person of the land that has now been labelled by those some European as 'Australia' was done by people from the United Kingdom.

Those so called 'discovers' didn't become an 'Australian' just because they 'discovered' a land now labelled as 'Australia'.

'Discovered' despite those same people knowing humans were already living on the land, 'discovered' after being habitant by human for at least 40,000 years.

I'm not here to start a whole thing over anything, just want to talk Rugby League. But I'm not going to stand by and be racially validated just because i was born in another country.

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Quote: TGG " What is a ECT?'"


'ECT' - Extra Celestial Television was a really good rock show in the mid-'80's.

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Quote: TGG "1. Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, Samoa, Tonga, Papua New Guniea, Fiji, USA etc

2. Yes calling someone from Australia a 'convict' is racist. Calling anyone, anything based on nothing else except where they were born is racist. The word 'Pom' could be taken in a racist matter if you wanted, then so could the world 'Aussie' if you want to go down that path.

3. My ancestry dates back to England and Scotland, my family traveled over the to 'new world' as free human beings. Wrongfully thinking my family has a criminal past because i now live in Australia has lead to your comments. My family has never rape, murdered or mistreated Aboriginals. In fact, how do you know I am not Aboriginal myself? How do you know I am not of Pakistani decent and was born as an Australia or any other nationality for that instance?

For you to blame crimes committed by convicts on me, is the same as blaming the invasion of Australia by the British on you. While our families may not have been apart of it, your attitude of 'you are from there, it's your fault' is disgusting and that is why i used that example.

4. What is a ECT?'"


1) I'll give you NZ, but that's it. And that's only another 4million people. If the pacific islanders have started doing it too then that's probably related to Australian cultural influence in the region. Either way, it's nothing like your ludicrous 'half the world' claim.

2) Racism is about colour of someone's skin, not their place of birth. That would be Xenophobia. Might be useful if you learnt the difference if you're going to start hurling insults and accusations at people. And how can a contraction like 'Aussie' be considered racist? Wow.

3) I know your ancestry because you told us about it earlier on. Do you think the only rapes, murders, etc were committed by actual convicts? That they suddenly stopped when people began moving there of their own volition?

None of my ancestors moved to Australia. Therefore none of my ancestors did any of those things to the aboriginals. Your ancestors did move to Australia. Maybe they committed those atrocities, maybe they turned a blind eye to them, maybe they had no idea they were going on. But the fact is they colonised Australia. Your family, not mine. It's not that hard to understand.

4) ECT is a poster on another site who sounds remarkably like you. Almost word for word, in fact. And he gets his handed to him on a regular basis.

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Oh dear. A constructive thread on a Supporters Club de-railed by a petty squabble. Behave, the lot of you.

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