When I said move on, I meant in the name change sense - however I've never been a fan of the Stoop because it lacks atmosphere in comparison with Brentford and is in an area ambivalent to RL (very few locals watch and IMO will ever watch Quins RL).

Talking about losing fans - I know quite a few who stopped going immediately after the name change to Quins. The Welsh posse are an excellent example. I also have not seen Louise and Steve since the name change - formerly very staunch well known vocal London RL fans.

Crowds are less than they were at Griffin Park, but have been pumped up recently by ticket giveaways. Nevertheless I think the club did pick up a few new fans since moving to the Stoop. Hopefully some old fans will come back after the Quins moniker is ditched

Anyone who thinks a name change won't make a difference is deluded and probably a "Quins" brand lover anyway. It will make a HUGE difference. The Quins brand offered nothing for the RL club. It doesn't even have a civic link which is more important for RL clubs than RU clubs

How you come to that conclusion is a baffling as you unending loyalty to the Quins brand, I think Lobbygobbler1 states his case well, I agree the Quins and this is not Anti Union brand has done us no good it in fact harmed us, The Stoop worked first time around but then we did not have there brand, but the damage has now been done.

Why can't people accept a survey was done and a clear majority backed the club in a name change and long term to look to owning or part owning a ground, if people had said no we want to keep the Quins brand and stay forever at The Stoop I can assure you I would not have thrown my dummy out like many seem to keep doing.

How do you know?

The results of the survey haven't been published, unless I'm missing something.

Gus Mackay p. 21 of the programme v. Leeds: "92% of the 1250 people who filled in the survey want London in the name."

Perhaps you don't like to see the truth & fact or simply do not purchase the club programme?

The sooner this is resolved the better, then I really hope the squabbling can stop and we can move on to see Our Club succeed in Super League.

Well, its pretty sad and pathetic that the survey results are only published in a club programme....I mean, why not on their website? I've never seen these results....can you send a link to a report or similar?

My bad. I don't tend to buy the matchday programme, I must confess.

I'm surprised as many as that voted as well, that's better than I thought.

Quote The Penguin="The Penguin"My bad. I don't tend to buy the matchday programme, I must confess. I'm surprised as many as that voted as well, that's better than I thought.'" Ah, well, the question asked was just a bit loaded. Here's part of the survey: 2. Should Quins RL change their club name? -No Preference -Yes -No 3. If the club were to be renamed, whether you answered Yes or No to question 2, we would value your thoughts. Given the club's proximity to London, would you agree that a reference to 'London' should appear within the name. -Yes -No Link to survey: www.quinsrl.co.uk/news/13686.php

Quote The Penguin="The Penguin"My bad. I don't tend to buy the matchday programme, I must confess. I'm surprised as many as that voted as well, that's better than I thought.'" Ah, well, the question asked was just a bit loaded. Here's part of the survey: 2. Should Quins RL change their club name? -No Preference -Yes -No 3. If the club were to be renamed, whether you answered Yes or No to question 2, we would value your thoughts. Given the club's proximity to London, would you agree that a reference to 'London' should appear within the name. -Yes -No Link to survey: www.quinsrl.co.uk/news/13686.php

Also its worth pointing out that the reverse survey was not carried out when the club was London Broncos whilst at Brentford. In fact the club moved very quickly and changed the name without asking fans.

I can tell you that if there had been a vote then, I doubt that more than 1% of fans would have voted to switch from "London Broncos" to "Quins"

C'ARN LANDAN!

I think we weren't asked at Brentford because, as I understand it, Nic Cartwright and co went cap in hand to Harlequins to sort out ground sharing or Harlequins taking us over after London Broncos went bust. Becoming Harlequins RL and adopting their pastel colours was made a condition of the deal. I don't think the club were given a choice so consequently the fans had no say in the matter!

Stiil ,on the bright side we won't have to play under the pastel flag of convenience for much longer!!

The long and short of the change to Quins RL was quite simple. David Hughes had decided enough was enough when it came to hurling money down the drain and wanted someone else to share the financial burden. Ian Lenegan was willing to assist but only if we became Quins RL as he didn't see any future for us as London Broncos and thought the Quins link up might work. The name was part of the deal however the kit wasn't quite so certain. Ian didn't want us to wear the RU kit, hence the initial talk about a RL influenced kit however he had his mind changed by Mark Evans who pointed out that if we were trying to win over Quins RU fans mucking about with a 150 or so year old traditional kit probably wouldn't be a great starting point.

Put simply if there had been a vote at the time of the name change it would basically have been do you want a) a club called Quins RL or b) no club.

I suspect the name Quins RL would have got a bit more than 1% of the vote.

Edited to add that whilst there was no survey a small number of "key" fans were consulted about the Quins move. I wasn't one but a then high profile fan who was a close friend was one of them. He has drifted away, personal reasons caused him to move, but at least one of the others consulted regularly posts on this board. I'll leave it up to them whether they wish to confirm the truth of this as I don't think they have ever publicly said they were consulted.