And the miked up Ref where the pa system his was mike up to crashed.

For what it's worth I quite fancy the London Clash. That said, frankly, you can change all you like but it won't matter a jot in terms of attendances without having a team that is capable of mounting a serious challenge for Wembley and/or Old Trafford

Name changing doesn't get us anywhere on its own. If it is part of a serious re-branding, innovative marketing and marquee players then we might be on to something. I have yet to see any evidence. I think the Skolars are a better bet for progress next season with a real chance of getting out of Championship1.

Gents, it is an honour to share this opinion with you.

The idea that Quins RL has failed because of the name, or location, is pure comedy. Quins RL has failed so far because (1) the team has been useless, as it was a for a few years before the move, and (2) there's been no marketing or promotion to speak of (most criminally in the first season, when the team was less useless than usual and there was a once-in-a-generation opportunity to pitch a good concept)

In answer to Jaybs, I don't advocate doing nothing...

I advocate persistent, relentless execution of the Quins RL plan. But doing it properly, ideally addressing the two issues above. If that doesn't work, then just turn off the lights because to be honest another random name change, and heaven forbid a location change, will have no positive impact whatsover. Combining either of those daft ideas with a better team and better marcomms will have an impact, yes, but then why not try that with Quins RL instead of wasting time, money and energy on all this rebranding nonsense.

Seriously, the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

The move to the Stoop was a stupid idea in the first place. You are in the shadow of "Twickers" in more ways than one, but it would be pointless to move now. To change the name would just look sad/desperate. Just need to keep trying to improve, and getting involved with the community. But the basic problem is where you are, and the name, but would be pointless to change. I really don't envy you fans at all, but admire you.

Glad to know that you don't advocate doing nothing! we know the answers to the problems dammed well, they are the same as you, but what you suggest we have been saying for a long time. Money has been spent, as I have said previously IF Every Super League chairman put the same into the pot as David Hughes personally has done here in London the game would be in such a great state, not necessary in London!

With London we are now in a position money has been thrown into the club, okay we did not have the marquee players, it needs a complete re-launch and to stick as it is now would be the biggest Risk of all time in my opinion. I do feel the Quins brand has done us no good and that I do feel is shared by those that matter at the club and the rugby football league. We are going to have to stay at The Stoop as there is no place at the moment that would be better to go to, but we need to make some real Changes, we have to get it right on the pitch, so it needs the correct marquee signings, we then have to be able to market like it has never been done in the past, but it has to be the complete new package which will attract not just the regulars but lots more New fans.

You talk about turning off the lights well if you think it is bad for us I Believe we there are quite a few of the other teams in the same club in the North! it is not all a bed of roses, gate money will never pay the bills and clubs have wasted too money of the money that came into the game. If we do not do something as a game we will say goodbye to major sponsors the likes we used to have one time!

Your opinion is not another random name change! and forbid a location change! well You have not put in the amount of money David Hughes has into the London Club! and he still wants it to succeed!

After yesterday's game, changing the name isn't what we need to address, it's the overall match day atmosphere. It pretty much felt like a Wigan home game, especially after the game with the Wigan players hanging around with the fans. I have to say, I was pretty much disillusioned in the second half and didn't really care anymore. I hate it when the away fans make more noise and have more passion than us. Becoming Broncos again is just to mask over the cracks, rather than addressing more important things.

Exactly.

...now, changing Quins names to Flamingoes, and playing in Pink. That's progress!

there were once bears in leigh before the centurians killed them off!

Pointing the finger at St Helens, arguably one of the biggest clubs in the competition is laughable. Sort your own club out before pointing the finger elsewhere comes to mind. I will eat my hat if Saints don't get 15,000 when they move into their new ground.

Come on Moe? don't be so touchy, bet you wish you could get the same attendances as Wigan week in and out do! Leeds do however bad they are playing and also Hull, even Bradford have come back and beat you on attendances of previous seasons at Knowsley Road. Yes you are one of the biggest clubs in the competition, but not off the pitch for a long time, even your Friends at Warrington attract more through the gates and did last season. I thought you would get more travelling to Widnes with your success but it has not been the case and the attendances must lead to a serious loss this season off the pitch when the accounts come out!

Funny in the rugby press today how that correspondent on the letters page, who always seems ever present Mr Duffy (yes from St Helens) points out how it was wrong that Wigan were the power for far too long and now it is Warrington! you have had so much on the field success at St Helens but never got the crowds you should have done. I feel it is good to see Warrington doing so well, Simon Moran like David Hughes here has spent a lot of his own personal money.

I hope you get the 15K, but after the first few games I think it will settle down to 12,500 - 14,000 and that is being optimistic! Perhaps when we catch you up in one hundred and how many years we will be getting the same crowds, hope so LOL!