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Quote: Starbug "Not missing the point , but the point being , for every winner there is always a loser , the win lose ratio is identical , that is the way it is , many clubs outside SL are facing exactly the same problems that Quins are , you have to build your club based on a losing culture , or consider dropping to a lower level where your win ratio could change , that is just the way it is'"



It is not the same, Super League at present is looking for a major sponsor and also negotiating the TV contract, London has been seen by major investors in sponsorship and Sky as a leader, they may not know where Castleford or Wakefield is, it is the Game that counts. If the game does not get a major sponsor or the TV contract is taken over by a smaller TV provider there will not be the money for a professional game!

I still say we should add one extra team for the next set of licences and there needs to be some deep thinking which way the game really wants to go, if it wants to be an M62 corridor sport then let is go semi pro once more, but don't blame the young talent then if they turn to Union!

I keep saying over and over again I was no fan of Maurice Lindsay but he had vision if he had not had the guts to do what he did with Super League what state would the game be in now, more amateur than semi-pro he Saved the game of Rugby League, Sky signed up to the vision he had, there is no denying the leaders of the game still have that vision even though the short sighted fans who only think of their own club rather than the game don't want to share it, but the game sadly lacks a Maurice Lindsay who bangs the Big Drum for Rugby League, Lewis and Wood are in fact and seem Wet compared to Lindsay, no excitement we need someone to get a grip and take hold of our game who can take to the movers in London in business and media on the same level not apologetic!

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Quote: Starbug "Like what , football , RU , , all available on the doorstep , at considerable less cost than London , my point being you cannot rely upon results on the pitch to build a fan base , if that were the case then 50 % of clubs are doomed , and if as some have posted , you need a sustained period of success , then probably 75/80 % of clubs are doomed , and all the non SL clubs as well'"


Very true. It's unrealistic and unsustainable to base all your hopes on having a winning team. All 14 clubs want a winning team - at least half are going to be disapointed. Look at Wakefield, second bottom, been in administration, relegation looming, yet doing quite well.

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Quote: east stander "SEB- a couple of years ago each member of a local team in London was given a Quins Season Ticket. Im not sure the link between playing and watching is as strong a some would believe.

They hold youth tournaments near Twickers on some match days and issue tickets out.

Lots have been tried.'"


That sounds a bit half-hearted though to me. Whilst my suggestion would require much more effort (and some investment) it would surely yield much better results.

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Quote: SEB "That sounds a bit half-hearted though to me. Whilst my suggestion would require much more effort (and some investment) it would surely yield much better results.'"


Amateurs will come if they want to, but playing the game in the South East does take up a large part of your weekend, no matter which club you play for, coming to watch the London side is quite a commitment and means your weekend is wiped out. I would target one match a season, maybe a challenge cup game or any weekend when there is no league games for them, they are all given matchday tickets and more than encouraged to come down, something nailed in the diary at the start of the year that gives no excuses and puts a few hundred extra on the gate.

My suggestion is give all the kids season tickets and give adults who help out with their kids matchday tickets for matches that we want them to attend as loyalty bonuses and discounts for having a league playing kid.

There has been a winding down of the matchday experience for adults, ie half-time entertainment, cheerleaders, full-time entertainment not what it was, etc but kids need a bit more than buck and dusty; face-painting, bouncy castles, kicking at small goals, running with the ball against elastic, the same thing kids have enjoyed around rugby grounds for years.

Kids bugging parents to go to the games, and we get the parents interested too.

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Quote: Londo06 "Amateurs will come if they want to, but playing the game in the South East does take up a large part of your weekend, no matter which club you play for, coming to watch the London side is quite a commitment and means your weekend is wiped out. I would target one match a season, maybe a challenge cup game or any weekend when there is no league games for them, they are all given matchday tickets and more than encouraged to come down, something nailed in the diary at the start of the year that gives no excuses and puts a few hundred extra on the gate.

My suggestion is give all the kids season tickets and give adults who help out with their kids matchday tickets for matches that we want them to attend as loyalty bonuses and discounts for having a league playing kid.

There has been a winding down of the matchday experience for adults, ie half-time entertainment, cheerleaders, full-time entertainment not what it was, etc but kids need a bit more than buck and dusty; face-painting, bouncy castles, kicking at small goals, running with the ball against elastic, the same thing kids have enjoyed around rugby grounds for years.

Kids bugging parents to go to the games, and we get the parents interested too.'"


So why isn't any of these things ever tried? I realise they take effort and money - but I gather the chairman is putting loads of his own money in just to keep the club afloat. Surely a bit more to try to actually grow the business and make it sustainable would be more sensible then just hoping for it to happen. He's just pouring his money away currently.

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Last year at the Leeds game there was a junior festival on in the morning with loads of lids playing at or very close to the Stoop.They and their parents were all given free tickets. Once their games were finished their parents bundled them into their cars and left - result a handful of kids stayed. What can you do until RL is the psyche which may not be until those kids are parents themselves.

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