That may or may not be true but it would matter to those of us who follow RL in London and that's why it's being discussed on here. Trolls like you add nothing to the debate so please spare us any more of your pompous musings. Thank you.

Quote the day will come="the day will come"dream on just look at the results that widnes posted today, rl has never needed a london team it was a whim it didnt work and never will www.widnesvikings.co.uk/article.php?id=2519 we didnt get bailed out by the rl/sky on we have now risen =#FF0000we will be a force again once the london experiment has run it course'" The only time Widnes were "a force" it was within a semi-professional regional sport.

Quote the day will come="the day will come"dream on just look at the results that widnes posted today, rl has never needed a london team it was a whim it didnt work and never will www.widnesvikings.co.uk/article.php?id=2519 we didnt get bailed out by the rl/sky on we have now risen =#FF0000we will be a force again once the london experiment has run it course'" The only time Widnes were "a force" it was within a semi-professional regional sport.

True , but that doesn't mean they cannot become a force in SL , they have all they need to do it , it won't happen overnight , but with the backing they have it could well happen

The thoughts of the 'majority' have never been convincing to me, if it was announced that IK Pegasi had gone supernova the majority of people would get a good nights sleep, meanwhile I would be furiously attempting to insulate my cellar walls with lead and stocking up on anti-radiation tablets.

Are you worried by IK Pegasi A or B?

I wouldn't disagee with that, but it does prompt the question of how many fans would lose sleep if any club went bust - other than its own supporters. Your own club are a prime example, with another Super League club and an ambitious Championship outfit down the road. I'm not trying to score points here, and I sincerely hope that Trinity don't find themselves in that position, but maybe we're not so different in some respects.

As for Quins, just to be even-handed, I do have some problems getting my head round the Sky TV argument for us being retained. Why are we so important that Sky would bail out of RL if we droped out of the competition? Yes, Sky get a lot of viewers for RL in the South, but is that figure inflated when Quins are on - I very much doubt it.

If Sky did regard us as important then they can help. If not financially, then maybe by publicising a match to Sky Sports subscribers in the London area with discount tickets to a specific game and a draw to win an HD box and subscription.

Homer will smack your ar5e for mentioning marketing

Jeff, many people can't understand the way Sky act! look at politics, but what they do like is being on Total Control and when they pay the money they do and more so when they are aware that a sport like Super League virtually depends on the Sky money of course they can call the shots!

Who would have ever thought ITV would have pulled out of Wrestling on a Saturday afternoons? it is well documented in media the personality of Ken Walton, full halls and some of the biggest audiences other than the FA Cup Final.

People have their heads in the sand if the think our sport of RL is strong as far as the media is concerned, have you seen some of the BBC viewing figures for the Challenge Cup games? the attendances at these cup matches, how many real national sponsors do we generate these days? and the coverage given by the printed national press! It is not just Sky and it is not just the demise of London rugby it is a game that lacks real direction and for some reason does not appeal any longer to much more than the real "die hards"

I think the key is that Jeff didn't actually use "the M word". His message was more subliminal and subtle than that!

FFS!

I had never heard of engage before they started sponsoring the league. Every club should have a major multinational or at least well-known national company on their shirt. We had them 10-15 years ago as a sport, but often with little money attached as they came through RL people connected to the company. Union has that now with RU people at influential levels at companies forcing through good sponsorship deals for their union clubs. They do it with money attached, we have done it with little money attached because we are seen as a minority sport played by Northeners, luckily for us they think the whole of the north plays the game, watches the games and loves the game, else we might even be in a poorer position sponsorshipwise. BTW RL seems to get missed out on the Cantona advert, and quite a few others when they advertise SKY sports.