fulhamlondonbroncoquins which name do you fancy next. can i ask have you a ground??????? and how long have you been promoting RL in the top flight in London??????

In a random, ad hoc, 'its ok cos we can cram the side full of Aussies' sense around 25 years.

In a consolidated, sound based, organised, focused, 'lets give the southern kids a proper structure to develop in' sense 5 years.

So in answer to your question, 5 years ... so we arent doing that bad.

Also The RWC victory in 2003 in Australia was a big boost in bringing in "New Spectators" to the game.

As an example a friend of mine's 9 year old was so captivated in 2003 by RU after England's victory that he then nagged dad and they both went dowmn to his nearest ground to see what it's all about. Some 7 years later both he and his son are now season ticket holders at Wasps. And Dad's one time football season ticket has been replaced by a RU one.

One of the biggest boost for RL especially in the Capital would be for England to be crowned RL World Cup winners in 2013.

But let's face it who'd want anything to do with a bloody French idea? Defo not the M62 "Posse"........................................

Oh good. After stupidnotyellow got all a'rsey I though that there'd be nobody to play with...but here you are.
It's FulhamCrusaderBroncoQuins if you want to have a pop.....and if we do change names again, we have decided to let the RFL spend 10,000,000 on consultancy fees to help us decide.


. You can ask. You actually have asked. The answer is yes, we do. The same as Wigan Athletic, Huddersfield Town and Hull City have tennants that play Rugby League on their pitch, we have Harlequins Rugby Union that have tennants that play Rugby League on their pitch. Difference is, the RFU are not considering a "sole use" policy on their clubs grounds, whereas the Premier League/FA are.....maybe you should ask the same question on the Hull FC, Huddersfield Giants and Wigan Warriors boards


The ground that we are tennants in is up to the standard expected of a 21st century arena....whilst you have a crumbling wreck and/or a set of blueprints and a Tonka Toy





Since SL invited us to join in 1996, at the express request of the broadcast partner who is responsible for dragging the game out of the dark ages, London RL has attempted to attract not only crowds to the game( where we admit we have failed BTW) but also new players. LMS was I believe 11 years old when London RL ran out in their first ever SL game......he is now a full England International and on his way to St Helens. Without London RL in superleague, this development and the money involved in carrying it out would never have been available. The 9 Cockneys that played for the club this year would probably be playing Union........
Now, I know 15 years may seem like a long time, so let's put it into perspective for you.

1980, when professional RL started in the capital, so 30 years. Average gate this year, 3,394. That's 113 fans per year in existance.
1896?1905?1926/
Let's be nice....1926! So, I make that 84 years and an average of 6,612. That's 78 fans a year.
See...if you ask about "how long"...or come out with timescale type questions, you will only look stupid.

I have no issue with Castleford fans in general, but it does seem that some of you, together with a few idiots from other clubs in supposed danger of being ejected, would rather point the finger at an easy target rather than look at the hard facts faced by your own club.
You promised a stadium by the next round of licence applications and I sincerely hope you deliver it (I genuinely do), but as it stands, you have delivered nothing..unless a crayon sketch on the back of a beer mat counts as a new stadium in Yorkshire



Or maybe your club misunderstood and thought it was the next round of OFF-LICENCE applications



Feel free to pop in any time. It's always a pleasure

I dont want to get drawn into any of the arguments going on on here as i think there are enough between us and wake, but there is one thing that really narks me about all this licence situation and that is we will probbably be show the door just because we have an ageing ground. Fair enough i know we promised a new stadium (and this could still happen) but if it doesnt we are out. I know you talk about all our years in existance but in reality we have had to start from scratch twice in the last 7 years, we finished in the 8 last year and we still have a chance this year. I think this is a real credit to our club after all it has been through, but this means nothing to the RFL and i think the next fall there will be no coming back from. Quins have done well to fetch there players through but not wanting to sound bigheaded on this, cas have brought that n umber of juniors through fivefold in the last 5 years but once again this counts for nothing with the RFL. So basically i think everyones probblems from the M62 corridoor (or cas and wake area) is that the RFL are not giving us a level playing field, I dont know what your clubs state is exactly but i know its not too good at the moment but as far as SL goes you are as safe as houses, our club is improving year on year but we are very much in danger. I am sure if you look at it this way you can see why people are getting frustrated. Personally i think the league should be extended and all clubs should be allowed the same number of overseas players say 4 each but unfortunatly this will never happen as the game may not be as glamerouse for sky for a few years but in the long run i think this is the only way British and French Rl will improve. But to me that sounds like common sence so it has to be a non starter

There not arguments. This was a subject that was being debated in a nice manner until the trolls decided to infest.

I believe that the vast majority of Quins fans have no interest in pointing the finger at other clubs (unless provoked) and we would be sad to see any SL club ejected, but the cold hard facts are that the RFL have a vision for where they want the game to go and one of the things they require is stadiums that are up to scratch. This is where a number of clubs, including Odslum and caravan park by the way, will be in trouble.
We have 2 major issues. Fans, or lack of them are something we were warned about, as you were with your ground. We have made no progress on this matter and this is of concern.
Secondly, finance. Regardless of who is to blame, a guy who owns 30% of the club is picking up 100% of our losses.....and he hasn't got the money to keep doing this.
So, quins have our own problems to deal with without visiting fans pointing out how good their youth set up is, how many times they have had to start/re-start from scratch etc.....
I empathise with your plight....I really do.

Cas is one of my favourite grounds

That and Post Office Road.

Wrong. The DW, Galpharm and KC stadia are owned by holding companies and the RL and soccer clubs have leasing agreements with them ( I think Wigan's was a 99 year one.).

those with closed minds need to recall.............gateshead being used to bail Hull Fc out.......then the crazy marriage with Sheffield( i think) that bailed huddersfield out.......
ahh but it doesnt count when its 'up ere' ?
Leeds were near bankrupt when GH n Pete Caddick bought it and turned it round.
Wigan were milliseconds from closing when Central park was sold....
So numpties who- 'rl was here before SL/broncos-Quins/Sky ..and will be fine again'.....need a reality check.
Every team is vital we arent that big we can lose any.What each brings to the table needs acknowledgement.
A devils advocate could say that as Salford have been in the 'heartlands'/whippetcountry/flathatlandia [delete to suit tastes they have no place in SL considering the attendance figures arent brilliant,what have they been sitting around NOT developing.But again 1/you cannt coz they is NORTHERN....2/Objectivity is not nice when clsoe to home at times.BUT Salford know it and have spent a lot of time targeting the future to develop themselves.....
London havent had since 1873(salford) to get into the local psysche/culture why is that difficult to recognise i dont know.Must be northern myopia....
keep going in't smoke...at pro or amateur level.

In Hull and Wigan, rugby league is the dominant sport, and I know a Huddersfield Town fan who complains that the football club is used to bankroll the rugby club. Rugby league is dominant in those areas.

The "London" side has had a roving franchise throughout its existence. Do you think it would fare better if it does what Crusaders have done, and that it relocate to a town where there is no other dominant sport, and try and represent that town? Hemel Hempstead was always a place cited as an amateur hotbed.

The anti-London thing I'm afraid is because of franchising, because people do not perceive the playing field to be level. Which it isnt.