That's a good way of looking at it. But don't forget, the ripples of applause were for your tries as well as our own. We clapped with much gusto at two of Catlans' tries last weekend, and we lost to them.


That's a very snobby comment and also one which reveals petty jealousy IMO. Saints have indeed been a fine team since the start of superleague and of course Saints fans have their expectations as a result. On that pitch representing my club were players, the majority of whom had played at Grand Finals and Challenge Cup finals and some of them had even won. I think if the roles were reversed and you were the club whose team were performing poorly at almost every match - and that is the case with Saints this season - you too would be disappointed because you would expect more of Grand Final winners. I don't think there is a thing wrong with that.

But it doesn't change the fact that both teams made mistakes and didn't get their respective acts together overall, and on this occasion that slowed the match down. As I said above.

Well said. I really enjoyed our performance yesterday. As you said, we played excellent rugby at times and really gave them a game in the second half. Unfortunately, the dropped pass turned the momentum of the game but still turgid is hardly the right word to describe our performance. St Helens, even with players missing, are a good side but we more than managed to stay with them for three quarters of the match.

I wasn't calling out the Quins performance, just the spectacle, or lack of, on the field as a whole.

That’s fair enough, but it emphasises the different perspectives of supporters of different clubs, and coming on here describing the game as turgid when most of our travelling supporters felt we’d played relatively well with an understrength side isn’t likely to strike a chord or find much empathy. You’re probably going to finish outside the top two for the first time in ages and the level of entertainment from your team on Sunday was below what Saints fans are accustomed to, and for that matter below what I’ve witnessed on your visits to The Stoop in recent years, but you still won and you’re still in the top three. We haven’t finished in the top half of the table (6th) since 2005. I’d bite your hand off for Saints current level of mediocrity!