I totally agree with this and it is my point when it comes to recruitment as well. There has been a fair few calls for going out and getting a top quality stand off or half which would be good if you have a great forward pack to put him behind. I think that we have showed that when our forwards play well that the halves that we have appear to be different players. We need to build up our forwards so that we have a pack that can consistently dominate and set up a platform for the backs. If we do this it would also be a lot easier to attract top qualty backs.

We seem to be a different team when Karl is playing well and he was awesome on Sunday as were a host of others and under the circumstances I was very proud of the team.

What I'm saying is that the TJ (or idiot TJ (ITJ) to be more accurate) is obviously incapable of making a proper decision despite being right on the spot. I accept he had no more indicated a try than in touch. He had indicated nothing, making his presence there utterly pointless. May as well get rid of ITJs at games with the VR, and save the RFL some beer money.

From his position he should have seen that the player was in touch and that the ball was not grounded - therefore no TRY. Being unsure how to restart the game might be his only get out, but even that should have been obvious to anyone qualified to run the line, and frankly I don't buy it given what happened in the last home game. Decisions like that are the type that officials should NEVER get wrong, like giving a knock on when you're facing your own line (Thaler!!). I can accept there are some terribly tricky decisions that even the VR cannot really help with, but these two were not them.

The bottom line is that he should have had his flag up in the Castleford game and also in this game. Both were shocking decisions (or non-decisions in this case) and indicative of his inability to do his job. In such a climate it makes it pretty impossible to 'respect' the officials.

End on a positive though, the team were great against admittedly limited opposition. Would have been easy to have let the events of the week affect the players. You could see they wanted to win so badly and this can sometimes have a negative effect. A fitting tribute from the fans too. The PA announcer's mess up actually served to make capture the mood even more - rather than a quick minutes silence and then onto the game. Made me feel very proud to be a Quins fan, and an RL fan. Sure the crowd was small in number but that probably makes us a closer bunch. Credit to the Crusaders fans too. Made it a special day both on and off the pitch.

Wan't Karl T voted players player of the year last year? Always rated him....makes the yard and stops them as well.

Surely the massed ranks of Loyal and Loud could come up with a ditty in his honour.....'you say Tomato, we say Tamata, let's call the whole thing off" would be apt after the leeds dummy spit regarding this weeks KO time

I'm one of those who hasn't been complimentary about Wilkes, but thought he had his bast game for us yesterday. Looked really impressive.

As for Ellis, his distribution from dummy half is poetry, and he seems to have a great sense of when to scoot too.

I agree 100% about Ellis. His passing was great. Always got to the man at catching level and he passes at a catchable speed, even when they were not close which should mean less dropped balls. Also, did people see his great offoad to Gale when he was being tackled. Im just disappointed he wasn't able to play from the start of the season, as he might have made the difference of a few league points.

I think Olly Wilkes is one of those unsung players who generally seems to go under the radar.