Load of rubbish - were we watching the same game ? I am not making any excuses, we were garbage, but you will recognise that a defensive line (both sides) should be 10 metres away from the play the ball - generally, the referee marks the 10 metres, if you stray within the 10 metres you are off side. Several refs like Mr A tend to let it go, my issue is why then pick on the odd off side if you are generally letting it go ?

I have to agree with a lot thats been said here about the team and the ref on saturday. But i wll add this about one of the Salford trys in the first half. It was the in goal touch judge that worried me. I'm lucky enough to be able to sit in the LV Stand in the Disabled Balcony,so had a good view of the first try. I couldnt believe he gave the try when a Quins player (i think it was Melling) had grounded the ball,but it popped out and Wilshire dived on it, he just nodded at the ref it was a try when IMO he was in a postion to see that Melling had grounded it first. The other thing was in the second half,we had kicked the ball though and was looking like it was going to go dead from in the in goal area, but it took a little bounce and the Salford player caught with his boot and kicked it out,but the same touch judge who again IMO had a clean view of that just pointed to a 20 metre restart. Im not trying to made excuses as all in all the team were bad on Saturday,but these two incidents could have made a little different to the out come of the game.

The teams energy levels sure look down, so does make you wonder just what they doing in training and are they being flogged to much at this end of the season. the most worring thing is what nearly everyone is saying here, is the lack of ideas in the 10/20 metres and attack. I think we tried one high ball to the corner on saturday,when other teams have kicked more then a few to Wilshire on the wing or when at FB as they felt hes a bit weak under it. as for grubbers all i can see is when someone has the nerve in our team to try it all they do is kick it against the other teams players legs.

Oh and after seeing the highlights alanw is right, Melling clearly touched it down first.

Maybe if you had 5 more players in the squad able to come in and pick up the slack you'd be okay. I'm no expert on the dirty quinze but I definately get the feal that you are a bit squad light.