Every time ?? ddi you come on here after the defeats to Leeds, Wigan, Hull fc, etc when there was nothing but complaints about the team ???

probably higher than the final score

no one is blaming the ref for our defeats, read the thread properly.

The ref was abysmal full stop. It's not a matter of blaming, but a statement of fact. We had a far superior ref this morning at our U13s game. Child is poor to the point where it becomes an issue of player safety - he has no control and no idea.

Agreed. He is absolutely shocking. Players shouldn't have to be fighting the frustration of ignored or bad calls.
No team can find there game when he's officiating.

Child needs to be downgraded he,s not superleague standard this season, I think the players know he,s not going to control the game so it just ends up in a free for all.
At least you know he's not bias to any team he just turns the game into a frustrating mess for both sets of fans.

Penalty count Saints had 13 against them. Huddersfield had 8.

Of course all our deserved a red card and all the Huddersfield ones were mistaken identity.

pen count was in saints favour but they should have had a man sent to the bin in the first 20, it was a joke.

masoe did two blatant late challenges, one on robbo and one on ellis, red card for me.. or does he need to do 3?

Moi a troll, I'm simply responding to your fellow posters comments on the match.

If they want to talk about the huge error count from both sides, I'm happy to talk about that, I have also posted on the anderson thread about how it seems a slight over reaction to be calling for the head coaches head, this early on.

I'm far from a troll. We've just had a game, it tends to follow that Saints and Giants posters would engage in debate on each others forums.

By all means lets talk about the lack of cutting edge from both sides or the tremedous defensive displays on show.

But if it's a topic on the ref and the penalty count then it's surely as free for debate.

Quote: brearley84 "pen count was in saints favour but they should have had a man sent to the bin in the first 20, it was a joke. masoe did two blatant late challenges, one on robbo and one on ellis, red card for me.. or does he need to do 3?'" In saints favour??? Giants: 8 Saints: 13 according to the Super league site. www.superleague.co.uk/report/11213 The you tube highlights show both challenges. If you check the counter not one second between the release of the ball and the hit, they were not that late, but the second one was a shoulder charge. Simple yellow for me. www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?6200 added for balance.

Quote: brearley84 "pen count was in saints favour but they should have had a man sent to the bin in the first 20, it was a joke. masoe did two blatant late challenges, one on robbo and one on ellis, red card for me.. or does he need to do 3?'" In saints favour??? Giants: 8 Saints: 13 according to the Super league site. www.superleague.co.uk/report/11213 The you tube highlights show both challenges. If you check the counter not one second between the release of the ball and the hit, they were not that late, but the second one was a shoulder charge. Simple yellow for me. www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?6200 added for balance.

James Child is a poor referee. I genuinely don't think it was anything to do with him we lost the game - don't drop the ball and stop repeating the same attacking move that didn't work the first 6 times - but he just ruins every game he referees. How can you attract new fans to the game and keep the ones we've got as a game when the referees continually spoil the spectacle? It's the area of Rugby League that needs the most attention.

i did a topic a few seasons ago about when we get bentham and child as ref, on games won/lost when these were in charge of us, not sure what the stats are now but cant be great

Is a t0sser

OP Could have just used a one liner