Exactly we are bottom of the league- for me signing a player like tickle who hasn't played a game all season and Widnes don't even want as back up suggests we are going to stay there! He is no better than what we already have IMO- and our best prospect for a while in Oliver Roberts is going to be the one missing out!

The same Michael Lawrence who Baloo said is the 1st name on his team sheet every week ?

The guy is one of the best in the league at what he does, never mind our team !

Gotta agree with this! He can play the full 80 with top defence, machine

honestly dont think this oliver roberts kid is as good as everybody thinks he is hes not stood out to me at all. in saying that hes not done anything wrong either.

Again not a champagne Charlie- He's a solid tackler, makes metres, busts tackles and runs good lines. What more are you wanting?

a champagne charlie who can bust tackles run 60 meters step the fullback and somersault over the line to score ovcourse

Roberts is great prospect, runs some great lines, almost did do what your asking over saints first game of season too. But as soon as one of these mythical beasts becomes available I'm sure Anderson will be in for them.

well said

we have wardle but then he is leaving that centre spot for it.

he said lawrence is a light prop and didnt say he was rubbish , he was saying not what we need in the second row which is an aggressive strong runner

would have lawrence in my team all day long at loose forward for his tackling and fitness.

agreed

The expectations of some fans that every player we have should be a world beater without any weakness (but, of course, with some 'mongrel') are just, well, I won't use those words, but seriously, some people need a healthy dose of realism.

Being the first name on the team sheet does not equate to being a good second row or even a good player. To throw your argument back at you the same Michael Lawrence Paul anderson brought a player in on loan who had we been able to sign him would be occupying the place ahead of him.

You are mistaking evaluating a players strengths and weaknesses and make an honest assessment with dismissing a player entirely.

Lawrence is an excellent tackler and a workhorse. He is not a strong aggressive runner. Often he hits the defence and is stopped. The former are excellent attributes for a Prop. The latter is essential for a second row.

If he bulks up some more he could be an essential part of our front row.

wardles long term future is as a 2nd rower, just having to do it abit sooner last year because of ferres being out banned/injured and again being rushed abit because we are short in that area