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| Quote: Gahan "Why would a fellow Giants fan want to muck rake?
Thats just the kind of remark we could do without on here Marsden, its picky and its tedious.
Right 11.30am kick off it is then'"
I have no idea why someone would want to muck rake. That is why I ask the poster for evidence / proof.
If they are making things up to criticise the club I hope we should be allowed to question it(?) If it is picky to ask a poster to back up criticisms with facts then that is a shame.
I have asked for proof from the poster and so far he / she has provided none.
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| Quote: Marsdengiant "I have no idea why someone would want to muck rake. That is why I ask the poster for evidence / proof.
If they are making things up to criticise the club I hope we should be allowed to question it(?) If it is picky to ask a poster to back up criticisms with facts then that is a shame.
I have asked for proof from the poster and so far he / she has provided none.'"
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Compare the number of schools this term and the same period last year, the reduction in (experienced) personnel on the community team, all activity now takes place at the ZONE (at a cost) and not at local clubs as it has been done in the past.
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Barring giving you the school figure which im presuming is lower then it seems answers have been provided there
Doesnt come across as a criticism to me, more just pointing out a few things
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| Quote: PBGIANT "Shouldn’t they have finished their season by then? Or are we talking U8 summer league?'"
my son is under 9s and they doing summer league now too. better weather wise but shame if we miss the game
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| Quote: DMH or GOD u choose "It's a shocking time to play the game,
the under 8's and 9's and emerging 8's all will have games, and as piglet said unless the coach is a giants fan a lot of kids will miss this game.
I know that there is 35+ kids (and families) playing at Moldgreen Jnr’s who will have to make a choice Giants or the team they play for.
The Giants since getting the licence to remain in SL for 3 years guaranteed seem to have forgotten about the community game!'"
exactly...my son actually plays for moldgreen under 9s lol
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| Quote: DMH or GOD u choose "It's a shocking time to play the game,
the under 8's and 9's and emerging 8's all will have games, and as piglet said unless the coach is a giants fan a lot of kids will miss this game.
I know that there is 35+ kids (and families) playing at Moldgreen Jnr’s who will have to make a choice Giants or the team they play for.
The Giants since getting the licence to remain in SL for 3 years guaranteed seem to have forgotten about the community game!'" my lad play's for shawcross U8,kick off time for his games are 10.30 sunday mornings
as for the giants in the community,in the 3 years he has been playing the game. at the end of season presentation a member of the giants squad were supposed to turn up at the event,but in 3 years none has turned up
yet we have had bradford,leeds,wakefield and dewsbury players turn up every year.so one would have to agree with DMH or GOD u choose
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| Whether the complaints can be statistically evidenced or not there is enough anecdotal evidence to suggest they could be doing better.
I am sure i read last year that salendine nook school got to some RL final and there was no significant contact from the club.
Whether that is down to the school or the club i know not, BUT it apeears there are some communication problems that could be improved.
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Whether the complaints can be statistically evidenced or not there is enough anecdotal evidence to suggest they could be doing better.
I am sure i read last year that salendine nook school got to some RL final and there was no significant contact from the club.
Whether that is down to the school or the club i know not, BUT it apeears there are some communication problems that could be improved.'"
Im sure im quoted at the time saying something along the lines as........... What Sally Nook getting to a final has to do with the Giants then i dont know, not taking anything away from their acheivement.
Surprised at Ponner's comments to be honest, i know of at least 1 player who does a lot of presentation nights, coaching, watching at amateur/kids level, maybe he does that off his own back, i dont know
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| Quote: Gahan "Im sure im quoted at the time saying something along the lines as........... What Sally Nook getting to a final has to do with the Giants then i dont know, not taking anything away from their acheivement.
Surprised at Ponner's comments to be honest, i know of at least 1 player who does a lot of presentation nights, coaching, watching at amateur/kids level, maybe he does that off his own back, i dont know'" Eh? What did I say?
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| Quote: Gahan "Barring giving you the school figure which im presuming is lower then it seems answers have been provided there
Doesnt come across as a criticism to me, more just pointing out a few things'"
The figures are the answer not simply a suggestion to make a comparison.
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" The Giants since getting the licence to remain in SL for 3 years guaranteed seem to have forgotten about the community game!"
reads like a criticism to me. If it is based on fact it is fair criticism. Otherwise it is criticism without evidence - which I have called muck raking. So far no evidence has been forthcoming
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Whether the complaints can be statistically evidenced or not there is enough anecdotal evidence to suggest they could be doing better.
I am sure i read last year that salendine nook school got to some RL final and there was no significant contact from the club.
Whether that is down to the school or the club i know not, BUT it apeears there are some communication problems that could be improved.'"
Smashing logic. When fans or even coaches of other clubs criicise the Giants based on their own 'biases and anecdotes' we challenge them. We do so with the facts.
Apparently when a 'Giants fan' challenges the community work of the club based on anecdote or a single event its okay.
Maybe if Justin Morgan or Nobby would say we had forgotten about our community game since getting a licence posters may think it worthy of challenging.
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| Quote: Marsdengiant "So far no evidence has been forthcoming
Then i suggest you re read his points again, seems to me you have selective reading Marsden mate
After the schools (i know he didnt provide numbers), he makes 2 other points, you miss them?
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| Quote: Marsdengiant "we challenge them. We do so with the facts.
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You any facts to dismiss his claims?
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| Quote: Gahan "Then i suggest you re read his points again, seems to me you have selective reading Marsden mate
After the schools (i know he didnt provide numbers), he makes 2 other points, you miss them?'"
That's right...no numbers.
Of course I am being selective! I am selecting the point about the Giants forgetting about the community game and saying that the poster provides no evidence! Despite requests no evidence has been forthcoming. The suggestion that everything is done at the zone is untrue.
I await his /her evidence.
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