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Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "It's not town's decision sky have picked those two matches. Do you really think it helps town playing top of the league Newcastle at half five?

Football league bosses have the final say on it and, due to things like pitch markings etc, have everyone over a barrel. As I said premier league bosses are even more of a pain in the backside. It's all contractual so if you share a ground with a football league club it's just the way it is. You couldn't afford to play there if you didn't share it with them so suck it up.

It helps you lot because it brings revenue into the stadium company as town move up the leagues. Stop being so blinkered.'"


town arent playing on the same evening as the giants. the day after, no need to move the giants game.

having watched town on sky recently you can see the rugby markings anyway and its not been a problem.

its just strange theres been a total change in policy all of a sudden and sets a worrying precedent for the future.

town and giants are both tenants of the ground, neither own it .

good luck to town, in with a cracking chance of making the premiership! just a shame it may be to the determent of the giants if this is whats going to happen in the future, the giants just wont be able to plan for games

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Quote: brearley84 "catalans game, we play on the monday after'"

So the initial move from Friday to Thursday wasn't requested by Town but the move from Thursday to Wednesday was?

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Quote: GIANT DAZ "And if Hoyle was such a big fan he could have bought his club sooner saving Ken having to save it but chose to do nothing, riding in later like the knight in shining armour to be the hero.
Town fans conveniently forget Ken saved their club while Hoyle watched it go to the wall.
In my opinion it should be Hoyle answering questions like where the hell were you when we needed you most ?
Why were you only interested in buying the club once someone else had done the work and made it a viable purchase ?'"


He's answered that before, and it was because he didn't have the money at the time in 2003 as he was still building a business...

Ken as a businessman to be fair, is very smart - I give him a lot of credit there. He used previous HTFC chairman Terry Fisher, Martin Byrne and a couple of others to front the bid to gain popularity, and as soon as it was completed, dropped them completely. People forget there was another viable bid on the table from a consortium fronted by a chap called Paul Haigh. Did Ken save the football club? Yes. Would it have gone to the wall if he hadn't? No... Because there was another viable bid.

Ken's purpose in buying the football club was to protect his interest in the HDone project, the stadium and in turn the Huddersfield Giants, and you know what... Fair enough. I've got no problem with that personally, and thanks to Ken for stepping in. But (allegedly) financially draining HTFC for his other interests? ......

I'd never call a football club a viable business, especially one who's debt had risen from 1.5m to 7m despite zero playing investment, and one of the lowest wage bills in the division, and one who'd had their greatest asset stripped, and then lumbered with debt and interest payments towards an asset they didn't even own anything of.

For all of the great work Ken has done for Huddersfield Giants, his tenure of HTFC was not particularly great. The thing I'm most thankful to Ken for is that he agreed to sell it.

As a Giants fan, I'm delighted at the on field progress and him turning a normal Championship club into a top end Super League side, it's just a shame that the crowds aren't coming. Hopefully we can put all of the above to bed and look at a future whereby the district can get behind both teams - and Town fans really have to get over themselves if the sole reason that they're not coming is Ken Davy.

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Quote: brearley84 "town arent playing on the same evening as the giants. the day after, no need to move the giants game.

having watched town on sky recently you can see the rugby markings anyway and its not been a problem.

its just strange theres been a total change in policy all of a sudden and sets a worrying precedent for the future.

town and giants are both tenants of the ground, neither own it .

good luck to town, in with a cracking chance of making the premiership! just a shame it may be to the determent of the giants if this is whats going to happen in the future, the giants just wont be able to plan for games'"


I would hope that HTFC and the really good social media marketing they're doing at the min could take a little time out to plug the giants in the summer. It'd be great to see around 8k or so down at the JSS for a Giants game.

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Quote: TBC "So the initial move from Friday to Thursday wasn't requested by Town but the move from Thursday to Wednesday was?'"


it was never requested, when the fixtures were released it was already down for thursday...catalans have a game monday too like us, play it on a friday and they have flights involved dont forget , player welfare comes into it and will have been agreed long time ago

hope that helps

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still no answer on compensation for fans who going to miss games like me.maybe HTFC should buy us out and we look for a new home. if town do go up and i hope they do they could play saturday sunday monday

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Quote: 40 year old giant "still no answer on compensation for fans who going to miss games like me.maybe HTFC should buy us out and we look for a new home. if town do go up and i hope they do they could play saturday sunday monday'"



Would love us to have our own home !!

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Quote: GIANT DAZ "Would love us to have our own home !!'"


Surely when SL fixtures are worked out, we know when Town are playing except for cup matches. Then we can fix our fixtures in any clash for Fri/Sat/Sun before the fixtures are published. It still annoys me changing for football, but is it the FA that will not shift and not Town in shared stadiums.
It must pay though to share costs of the stadium rather that seperate grounds, we just have to get on together.

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There wasn't a clash though that's the issue.

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Quote: brearley84 "it was never requested, when the fixtures were released it was already down for thursday...catalans have a game monday too like us, play it on a friday and they have flights involved dont forget , player welfare comes into it and will have been agreed long time ago

hope that helps'"

OK cheers. Seems our Friday night was scuppered by the fixture planners.

The rest by Sky and one by Town.

So much for Friday night is Giants night. Less than half home games on a Friday.

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If Town make the top the problem is likely to become worse and that will always effect the Giants. The Wakefield chairman spoke a lot of sense the other week when he talked about RL trying to be the 2nd major sport in the North. This is what we need to focus on and work together. I have been very critical of our marketing and commercial efforts but I think we are finally since Eorl was appointed ,starting to wake up and try and move forward, we have been really trying in last few weeks which is great and with the efforts so far on the field the club has a much more positive feel. It is hard though when fixtures are continually being shifted ,no easy answer!

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If I remember correctly, back in the 60s when I was a nipper we played Saturday rugby and usually Fartown and Town played home matches on alternate weeks. My late father was an avid supporter of both and took me down to watch them. I seem to remember the Fartown HT score coming up the the Town scoreboard, usually followed by a cheers or load groans, mind you Fartown got decent crowds in them days. It can't be that difficult for the RL fixture experts to ensure we play home matches on alternate weekends seeing as the football fixtures will have been out months before our fixtures are. Same goes for the FA, they know when our last few home games of the season are. Mind you, that's asking for a bit of common sense and then we've only got our Sky paymasters to contend with. If Fartown, Town and the powers that be would get their heads together surely any future fixture problems could be reasonably solved and the groundsman would have a far easier life icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif
Surely it can't be that hard but I won't hold my breath icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: 40 year old giant "still no answer on compensation for fans who going to miss games like me.maybe HTFC should buy us out and we look for a new home. if town do go up and i hope they do they could play saturday sunday monday'"


yes very quiet. you may have to email the club like others have done.

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i have done brearley got one back saying it would be mensioned at the next stadium board meeting

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Quote: Big Eorls Blouse "He's answered that before, and it was because he didn't have the money at the time in 2003 as he was still building a business...

Ken as a businessman to be fair, is very smart - I give him a lot of credit there. He used previous HTFC chairman Terry Fisher, Martin Byrne and a couple of others to front the bid to gain popularity, and as soon as it was completed, dropped them completely. People forget there was another viable bid on the table from a consortium fronted by a chap called Paul Haigh. Did Ken save the football club? Yes. Would it have gone to the wall if he hadn't? No... Because there was another viable bid.

Ken's purpose in buying the football club was to protect his interest in the HDone project, the stadium and in turn the Huddersfield Giants, and you know what... Fair enough. I've got no problem with that personally, and thanks to Ken for stepping in. But (allegedly) financially draining HTFC for his other interests? ......

I'd never call a football club a viable business, especially one who's debt had risen from 1.5m to 7m despite zero playing investment, and one of the lowest wage bills in the division, and one who'd had their greatest asset stripped, and then lumbered with debt and interest payments towards an asset they didn't even own anything of.

For all of the great work Ken has done for Huddersfield Giants, his tenure of HTFC was not particularly great. The thing I'm most thankful to Ken for is that he agreed to sell it.

As a Giants fan, I'm delighted at the on field progress and him turning a normal Championship club into a top end Super League side, it's just a shame that the crowds aren't coming. Hopefully we can put all of the above to bed and look at a future whereby the district can get behind both teams - and Town fans really have to get over themselves if the sole reason that they're not coming is Ken Davy.'"

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