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| Quote mickyb1234="mickyb1234"BENTHAM was in the right position for the drop goal call! sadly fellas he got it right! Nothing to do with it being you or any other team! Bloke on the pitch called it as he saw it.'"
But that doesn't explain why he didn't go to the screen like other decisions during the game. I mean he gave a drop out to Hudds in the first half then decided to go to the screen to check it, that was hardly a match deciding moment was it. But when it was a match deciding moment he decided to just give it as he saw it. That's everybody's beef.
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| Quote jaws1="jaws1"As a Wigan fan I thought the drop goal was over but in all honestly it should never have gone to this you had a kickable penalty just after second half started and you elected to run the ball those 2 points if kicked would have won you the match.'"
Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing ?
Giants were still robbed.
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| Quote AirlieJo="AirlieJo"Yes! I just hate how refs are ruining this game lol'"
It happens to every team though. You can't say any team in particular is favoured, all the refs are equally as bad!
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| No conspiracy theory about the big four clubs, yadda yadda yadda. Remember Saints V Hull KR in last years challenge cup? Francis Meli got sent off in the first half of that match & rightly so. Ferres indiscretion was the start of the downfall only compounded by the lack of composure in the last 5 minutes by some feeble organising when it came to the drop goal attempts. IMO not enough credit is being given to Saints goal line defence & charging down of the kicker when most players were fatigued and out on their feet.
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| Funny how nobody on here has spotted any decisions that went huddersfield's way. Like the knock on by Masoe in front of our posts when the tackler very clearly still had hold of his ball carrying arm while he's trying to put it on the ground. Should have been penalty Saints but given as knock on to Hudds. Or the ball steal on Roby on front of your posts where the ball comes out forward and into the hands of a Hudds player stood in an offside position. Given as play on but should have been penalty to Saints.
As regards the drop goal, I'm not sure whether it went over or not. The camera angles are very deceiving due to the foreshortening of long shots which does distort the picture. Not sure the video ref could have seen it any better as he'd just have the same camera angles. Maybe Bentham was right and he isn't actually bent and out to get you.
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| Quote raceman="raceman"But that doesn't explain why he didn't go to the screen like other decisions during the game. I mean he gave a drop out to Hudds in the first half then decided to go to the screen to check it, that was hardly a match deciding moment was it. But when it was a match deciding moment he decided to just give it as he saw it. That's everybody's beef.'"
But the video ref decision would have been inconclusive. One shows wide, one shows in. The video ref would have been in limbo, and unable to make the call it'd have been referred to the on field ref for his decision which would have been no DG.
Going to the screen wouldn't have made any difference to the DG being given.
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| Quote TheElectricGlidingWarrior="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Why wasn't the voluntary tackle penalised?'"
Do you mean the one by a Hudds player close to his try line after he'd picked up an attacking kick and didn't want to get dumped over the line? Or didn't you see that one?
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| Quote Harry Pinner="Harry Pinner"Do you mean the one by a Hudds player close to his try line after he'd picked up an attacking kick and didn't want to get dumped over the line? Or didn't you see that one?'"
No the one by hohaio when he just dived to the floor at the end, didn't you see that?
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| Quote FlexWheeler="FlexWheeler"But the video ref decision would have been inconclusive. One shows wide, one shows in. The video ref would have been in limbo, and unable to make the call it'd have been referred to the on field ref for his decision which would have been no DG.
Going to the screen wouldn't have made any difference to the DG being given.'"
But then we would be talking about a decision which was at least looked at to try and make the correct decision instead of just dismissing the effort as bentham did. If the decision is looked at by the video ref and cannot be decided upon then fair enough it can be accepted but to just dismiss it is wrong when the video ref is there and has been used for other decisions during the game which were in some ways meaningless compared to this one.
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| Quote raceman="raceman"No the one by hohaio when he just dived to the floor at the end, didn't you see that?'"
Yes, but I also saw the other one that Huddersfield fans apparently couldn't see. The point I'm trying to make is that you can't just pick and choose which wrong decisions you want to complain about. If you want to complain about the ones that went for Saints then you need to be unhappy about the ones that went for Hudds too. Just because an incorrect decision is made in the last 2 minutes of a game which is close at the end doesn't mean it's more important than one earlier in the game. If the earlier decisions had been correct then the score could have been completely different in the 78th minute. So they're all as important as each other and you can't just disagree with the ones that don't suit you.
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| Quote raceman="raceman"But then we would be talking about a decision which was at least looked at to try and make the correct decision instead of just dismissing the effort as bentham did. If the decision is looked at by the video ref and cannot be decided upon then fair enough it can be accepted but to just dismiss it is wrong when the video ref is there and has been used for other decisions during the game which were in some ways meaningless compared to this one.'"
He didn't just dismiss it. He made his call. Why would he refer it if he felt he was sure? Do we want a situation where every single incident is referred even if the ref is sure, ''just in case''?
Bottom line is, no one knows. Not you, me or ultimatly the video ref if he'd been called upon. The guy with the best view, was bentham, and he called no DG. That's it.
Still, even after this the ball was deep in saints half and hudds somehow allowed them right up the field into prime DG territory within only a few tackles.
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| Quote LFC Saint="LFC Saint"Only one person you should blame and thats Brett Ferres i'm afraid. What was he thinking at all. Huddersfield would of walked away with that game.'"
really? im not so sure, saints/bentham had the ascendency by then, summed up by jerry conceding a penalty for being shoved.
the game was evenly balanced up to that point, after that it was all one way traffic regards officiating.
no one deserved to lose that game today, ferres red card was right decisions but in no way was that the gamechanger, benthams decision to screw us was!
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