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Excuse after excuse after excuse is all I am reading.

What will it take for people to realise we really are in the doo doo?

If we lose in the million pound game we have had it and before the excuses start again it really is a reality!!!!!!

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Where are the excuses?
As far as i can see there are people's opinion's on what the problems are, why we're struggling, etc etc, it's forum to discuss such things, we don't need excuses, we know, the coaches know, the players know we haven't been anywhere near good enough, and yes we are struggling at the moment.

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Quote: simonsays "Well meast, as you point out one win from last 7 outings.
Not good is it. You keep on defending those in charge as you obviously got a vested interest , as your posts show.
We fans will just leave it as our opinion counts for nothing. With the Sky money no need for fans money.??.'"

What tripe, how have i got a vested interest in those in charge?
I am a fan,who goes to every home and away game, a long time fan who cares a lot about this club, i want what is best for the club, and my opinion is that sacking the head coach is not in the best interest of the club, you may not agree with it ,but that is my opinion.
I haven't defended anybody, i have simply offered my opinions on what the problems are.

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Quote: meast "Where are the excuses?
As far as i can see there are people's opinion's on what the problems are, why we're struggling, etc etc, it's forum to discuss such things, we don't need excuses, we know, the coaches know, the players know we haven't been anywhere near good enough, and yes we are struggling at the moment.'"


I am reading on facebook that we havent had the same halfback pairing, we have injuries, we have had to play the youngsters, Ferres incident, Robbo's retirement, didnt replace Koppy or Hughes, stripped Broughy of captaincy, blah blah blah, need I go on?
We have stumbled season after season in the games that matter, this season we have been found out, no-one fears us and we really are in the doo doo, need something to freshen and fire the whole team up

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I am reading on facebook that we havent had the same halfback pairing, we have injuries, we have had to play the youngsters, Ferres incident, Robbo's retirement, didnt replace Koppy or Hughes, stripped Broughy of captaincy, blah blah blah, need I go on?
We have stumbled season after season in the games that matter, this season we have been found out, no-one fears us and we really are in the doo doo, need something to freshen and fire the whole team up'"
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Totally agree.

We are going backwards as a team and we need some new ideas in terms of how the team play, perhaps Anderson has taken us as far as he can and new ideas are needed to take the team to the next level.
Also it would appear at the moment that making Hinchcliffe captain is not working and why would you make someone captain when he is not on the field for the full game?

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Quote: FLYINGPROP "I am reading on facebook that we havent had the same halfback pairing, we have injuries, we have had to play the youngsters, Ferres incident, Robbo's retirement, didnt replace Koppy or Hughes, stripped Broughy of captaincy, blah blah blah, need I go on?
We have stumbled season after season in the games that matter, this season we have been found out, no-one fears us and we really are in the doo doo, need something to freshen and fire the whole team up'"

But those aren't éxcuses those are people's opinions on what's wrong.
No one is making excuses for anything, what is there to find an excuse for? we are bottom of the table because we deserve to be!

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Quote: FLYINGPROP "I am reading on facebook that we havent had the same halfback pairing, we have injuries, we have had to play the youngsters, Ferres incident, Robbo's retirement, didnt replace Koppy or Hughes, stripped Broughy of captaincy, blah blah blah, need I go on?
We have stumbled season after season in the games that matter, this season we have been found out, no-one fears us and we really are in the doo doo, need something to freshen and fire the whole team up'"


You are not one of the Giants admiration society though are you, You are one of the whinging Brigade if your opinions don't fit in.

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Quote: meast "What tripe, how have i got a vested interest in those in charge?
I am a fan,who goes to every home and away game, a long time fan who cares a lot about this club, i want what is best for the club, and my opinion is that sacking the head coach is not in the best interest of the club, you may not agree with it ,but that is my opinion.
I haven't defended anybody, i have simply offered my opinions on what the problems are.'"


But by your own words meast, You don't want to be entertained, you want to win, ( you are on a hiding to nothing at the moment then ) And yesterday you were saying that offloading might not be in our Game plan, we are not privy to such info as fans. If that's not an excuse for our lack of skill, what is.
Offloading is one of the fundamental parts of the game ( we are privy to that info, We know it ceased to exist in the Giants game when Faiumu packed in) Huby was a offloader at Cas, that's all gone now. Eorl was getting there under Brown, that's all gone now.
We could be playing in the middle 8s, and fighting to stay in there, and some people will still be saying we just need time to turn things around.
P Anderson is not doing it for us mate, I don't know why ( I wish he was ) He has got us what we have on the back of some solid defence, and credit to him for that, But as has been said we are getting found out.
Almost every player we have has gone backwards, not one single one would get picked for England now except maybe Jerry and that's doubtful
I feel like many people I talk to, that we have missed our chance and we need to start over, We have to find a D Powel from somewhere, or another N Brown ( who isn't going to have some sort of wobbler )

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Quote: meast "But those aren't éxcuses those are people's opinions on what's wrong.
No one is making excuses for anything, what is there to find an excuse for? we are bottom of the table because we deserve to be!'"


I'm with you Meast.

We've got problems and are 'in a hole' as PA says.

If there was ever a time when everyone associated with the club needs to pull together this is it.

Looking on the positive side we're only 6 points off 4th. icon_eek.gif

Wonder what odds you'd get for a GF win at the moment? icon_ask.gif

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Reading the posts on here is like a discussion between Humans and martians.

There are some real problems at the club and no one seems to answer them.

The big issue for me in respect of Anderson is who is responsible for recruitment retention and planning.

If it is baloo he should be gone if it is Thewlis he should be gone. One or the other is responsible.

Injuries are part of the game every team at one point or another experiences them. Hull a couple of years ago and Saints last year

Leeds and us this year.

What is important is what sort of squad do you have,

Who went into this season we three experienced props Eorl, Rapira and Huby ?

We then have a couple of blown up second rows as back up Taai and Patrick.

After that we have three kids. Everyone knows that Props do not come into their prime until late 20s.

We were left with Smith mason and Johnson.

They a;; might become great players but they are a long way from where they need to be.


IN the backs it was even worse. We had two experienced backs to provide injury cover then we were down to kids who are not ready.

Who decided to go into the season with Robbo who was on the verge of retiring last year. Again this left us running a big risk re injuries.

Some one at the club gambled with having a very small squad and they lost big tome.

Someone made that decision and now we are paying for it.


My separate issue about Anderson relates to his man management / coaching and tactics.

Last year we had the quickest player in the league and never played to his strengths. We did not on one occasion as i can remember have a set mve using his pace. We then off;load him.

Who stopped our payers playing any sort of off;loading game.

Why is our passing so slow innacurate. This has been an issue for 3 seasons.

Every time i here Anderson say, " we know what the problems are, the players turned up with the wrong attitude". Then we say it again.

I can accept the team losing. I cannot accept the team not trying. Not trying is about something in the team. It is not about skill or injuries.

In my view Anderson has TWO games to sort this. If the players give up in the next two games like they have in the last two then Anderson will have to be sacrificed.

IF we lose the next two games we will be in the middle 8s and will need a new coach to get the team up for winning in the middle 8s. It will take that long to re organise and re invigorate the team.

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Quote: Jo Jumbuck "But by your own words meast, You don't want to be entertained, you want to win, ( you are on a hiding to nothing at the moment then ) And yesterday you were saying that offloading might not be in our Game plan, we are not privy to such info as fans. If that's not an excuse for our lack of skill, what is.
Offloading is one of the fundamental parts of the game ( we are privy to that info, We know it ceased to exist in the Giants game when Faiumu packed in) Huby was a offloader at Cas, that's all gone now. Eorl was getting there under Brown, that's all gone now.
We could be playing in the middle 8s, and fighting to stay in there, and some people will still be saying we just need time to turn things around.
P Anderson is not doing it for us mate, I don't know why ( I wish he was ) He has got us what we have on the back of some solid defence, and credit to him for that, But as has been said we are getting found out.
Almost every player we have has gone backwards, not one single one would get picked for England now except maybe Jerry and that's doubtful
I feel like many people I talk to, that we have missed our chance and we need to start over, We have to find a D Powel from somewhere, or another N Brown ( who isn't going to have some sort of wobbler )'"


Like i said, it's opinions, i don't see how sacking Anderson will make things better, i have given my opinion on what i think is the problem and what i think the answer is= patience.
Some people don't see it that way, and have no patience and call for heads to roll, that's their prerogatives.
maybe he has run his course, but in my opinion he deserves a chance to get us going again.

As for entertainment, then i would rather we work on fixing up the fundamental problems, like catching, tackling,passing etc first.

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Quote: Durham Giant "Reading the posts on here is like a discussion between Humans and martians.

There are some real problems at the club and no one seems to answer them.

The big issue for me in respect of Anderson is who is responsible for recruitment retention and planning.

If it is baloo he should be gone if it is Thewlis he should be gone. One or the other is responsible.

Injuries are part of the game every team at one point or another experiences them. Hull a couple of years ago and Saints last year

Leeds and us this year.

What is important is what sort of squad do you have,

Who went into this season we three experienced props Eorl, Rapira and Huby ?

We then have a couple of blown up second rows as back up Taai and Patrick.

After that we have three kids. Everyone knows that Props do not come into their prime until late 20s.

We were left with Smith mason and Johnson.

They a;; might become great players but they are a long way from where they need to be.


IN the backs it was even worse. We had two experienced backs to provide injury cover then we were down to kids who are not ready.

Who decided to go into the season with Robbo who was on the verge of retiring last year. Again this left us running a big risk re injuries.

Some one at the club gambled with having a very small squad and they lost big tome.

Someone made that decision and now we are paying for it.


My separate issue about Anderson relates to his man management / coaching and tactics.

Last year we had the quickest player in the league and never played to his strengths. We did not on one occasion as i can remember have a set mve using his pace. We then off;load him.

Who stopped our payers playing any sort of off;loading game.

Why is our passing so slow innacurate. This has been an issue for 3 seasons.

Every time i here Anderson say, " we know what the problems are, the players turned up with the wrong attitude". Then we say it again.

I can accept the team losing. I cannot accept the team not trying. Not trying is about something in the team. It is not about skill or injuries.

In my view Anderson has TWO games to sort this. If the players give up in the next two games like they have in the last two then Anderson will have to be sacrificed.

IF we lose the next two games we will be in the middle 8s and will need a new coach to get the team up for winning in the middle 8s. It will take that long to re organise and re invigorate the team.'"


Smith isn't inexperienced- and you can't have it all ways- we either give the kids an opportunity or have experience.
Make your mind up.

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Quote: Durham Giant "Reading the posts on here is like a discussion between Humans and martians.

There are some real problems at the club and no one seems to answer them.

The big issue for me in respect of Anderson is who is responsible for recruitment retention and planning.

If it is baloo he should be gone if it is Thewlis he should be gone. One or the other is responsible.

Injuries are part of the game every team at one point or another experiences them. Hull a couple of years ago and Saints last year

Leeds and us this year.

What is important is what sort of squad do you have,

Who went into this season we three experienced props Eorl, Rapira and Huby ?

We then have a couple of blown up second rows as back up Taai and Patrick.

After that we have three kids. Everyone knows that Props do not come into their prime until late 20s.

We were left with Smith mason and Johnson.

They a;; might become great players but they are a long way from where they need to be.


IN the backs it was even worse. We had two experienced backs to provide injury cover then we were down to kids who are not ready.

Who decided to go into the season with Robbo who was on the verge of retiring last year. Again this left us running a big risk re injuries.

Some one at the club gambled with having a very small squad and they lost big tome.

Someone made that decision and now we are paying for it.


My separate issue about Anderson relates to his man management / coaching and tactics.

Last year we had the quickest player in the league and never played to his strengths. We did not on one occasion as i can remember have a set mve using his pace. We then off;load him.

Who stopped our payers playing any sort of off;loading game.

Why is our passing so slow innacurate. This has been an issue for 3 seasons.

Every time i here Anderson say, " we know what the problems are, the players turned up with the wrong attitude". Then we say it again.

I can accept the team losing. I cannot accept the team not trying. Not trying is about something in the team. It is not about skill or injuries.

In my view Anderson has TWO games to sort this. If the players give up in the next two games like they have in the last two then Anderson will have to be sacrificed.

IF we lose the next two games we will be in the middle 8s and will need a new coach to get the team up for winning in the middle 8s. It will take that long to re organise and re invigorate the team.'"


Agree with all of this , I was saying at the start of the season, why have we not recruited better ? Why are we showing such loyalty to players well past there best ? We seemed to ether get over confident or lose the plot all together after we won the lls, to me that was the time ,the momentum was on our side ,confidence was high and in my opinion replacing a few tired players with some class myt have been all we needed to go all the way ,but instead we as a club have just taken a massive step backwards! . I just hope something is done quick because we don't have a big enough fan base to cope with even one season in the lower leagues, yes we would survive but the damage would be done and 90% of our top players would abandon ship. Hopefully we will stop the rot and find some fight soon. I seriously suggest we find some big aggressive forwards and let them offload!

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Quote: Durham Giant "Reading the posts on here is like a discussion between Humans and martians.

There are some real problems at the club and no one seems to answer them.

The big issue for me in respect of Anderson is who is responsible for recruitment retention and planning.

If it is baloo he should be gone if it is Thewlis he should be gone. One or the other is responsible.

Injuries are part of the game every team at one point or another experiences them. Hull a couple of years ago and Saints last year

Leeds and us this year.

What is important is what sort of squad do you have,

Who went into this season we three experienced props Eorl, Rapira and Huby ?

We then have a couple of blown up second rows as back up Taai and Patrick.

After that we have three kids. Everyone knows that Props do not come into their prime until late 20s.

We were left with Smith mason and Johnson.

They a;; might become great players but they are a long way from where they need to be.


IN the backs it was even worse. We had two experienced backs to provide injury cover then we were down to kids who are not ready.

Who decided to go into the season with Robbo who was on the verge of retiring last year. Again this left us running a big risk re injuries.

Some one at the club gambled with having a very small squad and they lost big tome.

Someone made that decision and now we are paying for it.


My separate issue about Anderson relates to his man management / coaching and tactics.

Last year we had the quickest player in the league and never played to his strengths. We did not on one occasion as i can remember have a set mve using his pace. We then off;load him.

Who stopped our payers playing any sort of off;loading game.

Why is our passing so slow innacurate. This has been an issue for 3 seasons.

Every time i here Anderson say, " we know what the problems are, the players turned up with the wrong attitude". Then we say it again.

I can accept the team losing. I cannot accept the team not trying. Not trying is about something in the team. It is not about skill or injuries.

In my view Anderson has TWO games to sort this. If the players give up in the next two games like they have in the last two then Anderson will have to be sacrificed.

IF we lose the next two games we will be in the middle 8s and will need a new coach to get the team up for winning in the middle 8s. It will take that long to re organise and re invigorate the team.'"



Absolutely right mate but you are wasting you time trying to convince people who see the world through Claret and Gold glasses. They think if you have the nerve to criticize the club or complain about the style of play, you are just a whinger who is not a true fan at all.
In reality they have been watching Tripe for so long that the last few seasons has seemed like they have found El-dorado. Most of last season, certainly up until the split, the football played was rubbish, other than 2/3 games ( they did pick it up in the playoff section to their credit ) till it mattered and then it went the same way as usual, they don't care mate , the lower they get the more you are supposed to get behind them ( if you are a true fan that is ) obviously the majority of people in Huddersfield feel differently. ( but hey ,what do they know, they weren't one of the 300.

Being one of those 300 is nothing to be ashamed of. it,s, not something to be proud of either It's just an admission you were prepared to go and pay out to watch Tripe, While you were , thousands of other people were watching good sides play good Football.

Well it won't take much for us to be heading in that direction again , Fans are deserting yearly , yet still all we need is a bit of time ,to turn it round. We need to beat Salford tomorrow or Mr Anderson will be in serious trouble, I don't want to see him out of work, I just want to see him Work somewhere else. We are playing a boring pedestrian style of football that people will just not pay to watch, If you play the game how it's meant to be played you will get you share of wins, more importantly you will get people to come and watch, So for me the ball is in Mr Davy's court.

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