To be honest, i didn't even notice the Ref on Saturday so i certainly have no issues with anything he did during the game...and in no way was he to blame for anything that happened or didn't....he didn't stop players making tackles or jumping for balls that they scored their soft tries from.

i agree with that, also to add that if we had closed games out that we had healthy leads in, widnes away, and hull KR and wire at home we would be joint top with saints on 26 points. let's face it, we threw those 3 games away.
whilst you can also say that it proves the point that we can't close games out, can't be ruthless, yes i would agree with that, but looking at it in a positive spin, we have played fairly poorly for probably 12/13 games and with a bit of luck and a bit more care we would be sitting joint top.

And that is exactly what is wrong with this league, you can play poorly for half the season but still have a chance of being the top team !!! half of the team's in the league don't even try to finish top and want to save themselves for a 4 game end of season tournament.

I want us to be top every year by playing to the best of our abilities every week and being there cos we are the best team not cos 6 others weren't that bothered where they finish..even now it looks like our squad have that attitude as well now !

The fans want to see the team rattle big score up against smaller teams but it seems the players are quite content with doing enough to just scrape the win and not using up too much or getting injured. i would love to see us put 50,60 etc on teams like London like others do but if that is how the squad are looking at the season it won't happen.

yep i dont fear anyone at our place but i mean as in the atmosphere the fans generate, when its leeds/wigan etc its great but the lower teams with not many fans we seem to want to encourage them to score and feel welcome!

yep look at wigan on sunday ...played the kids.. no doubt if it was a play off game they would of played bowen and the like

hopefully the new league structure will help make the season games more important

I agree. People always complain that we aren't ruthless.

Who was the top points scoreres last year?

Answer: the same team which is 4th best this season.

^Absolutely Spot on. Winning the league should make you Champions. I know im in a minority but if we win the GF but not the league I will feel a little short changed, the true Champions is the team who finishes top of the comp at the end of the regular season not the team that can win 4 games at season end. We have the Challenge Cup for that type of Comp and any team that wins this its a Superb achievement. GF is purely a money making excercise and if it has to stay it should be for a seperate trophy such as World Club Challenge with top 4 in UK vs top 4 in Oz as a playoff comp.

Then we've only won 4 titles and haven't won one since 1929 in your eyes since all our titles came through play offs and we won the last three having finished 2nd, 3rd and 4th in the league respectively. Someone should tell the club so they can alter their records.

With regard to clapping the opposition - yes I did and here is why:

London had only a handful of supporters there
London are all but relegated
London tried really hard all game
London players (particularly Drinkwater) went out of their way to ensure they sought out their few supporters at end of game to personally thank them, and show appreciation that they had travelled
Lastly - it was not so long ago that we were in exactly the same position - I can feel empathy for them

So what if we are the only ground to "welcome" away teams - personally see that as a good thing - what are we supposed to do - act like morons and boo them on to the pitch - I don't think so.

Hear hear. If the other team and referee don't turn up we don't have a game

Hey - looks like I touched a nerve there eh?

We all remember the days we were pants, getting ridiculed etc... - more reason to be a bit more charitable I would have thought

charitable !! to the team who has come to try and beat ours ? even if its at the expense of our own performance ? no thanks, i will appreciate good rugby and the like from the opposition but i couldn't care who the opposition are, where they are in the table, how many fans have come to support them i want my team to go out there and smash the living daylights out of EVERY team we play against !! This is professional rugby league in one of the toughest sports in the world not a dad v son's game at the local school ..sod charity, i want our players to be animals on the field !!