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Quote: GIANT DAZ "And that attitude is the attitude of the people running the game, and the reason the game will never grow as the governing body have decided that there's only ever going to be 3 teams that matter to them!!
People wonder why it's the same teams all the time ... Well the RFL have proved that it's because those are the teams they WANT to be doing well. Can you imagine a soccer team not being allowed to play in Europe because the FA don't deem them attractive or big enough ?'"


Except they haven't decided there's only 3 teams that matter to them. It's just due to leeds winning everything, they were left with a problem. Being as huddersfield turned it down last year, and the no doubt larger attendance saints would produce, they've gone with saints.

Maybe if huddersfield hadn't done their usual playoff choking act they'd have qualified on merit, but instead you blame the big bad RFL rather than yourselves. A lack of personal responsibility is a losers attitude, which is typical of huddersfield.

Maybe rather than blaming the RFL, you use this as motivation for next season. To drive you on, to make sure you actually have some success and then qualify for it on merit.

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Why should the size of a potential crowd have any bearing on who is selected though ? again, another reason to keep it with the status quo, let's keep the top clubs at the top and geive them even more chances to earn more money/exposure etc....

and we didn't turn it down, we weren't offered a crack, just like this year !

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the club arent interested unless they actually win the grand final and thats coming from the very top in ken davy

i dont agree.

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Somewhere in the dust of time rest the bones of the Galilean He who was spat upon. He whose face was marred beyond all human likeness Somewhere buried among the lies of the past rests the tomb of Yeshua Of he who was made God in a world without Hope. And when this son of Joseph is found. What then will the Church of Rome say? Prepare yourself for the day is coming. And men will say "Blessed are the wasted lives who perished in the flames of the holy war":



Quote: FlexWheeler "Saints or Huddersfield was a no brainer.

Saints everytime.

Poor old huddersfield.'"


It should've been Catalan if they were picking a club.

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Quote: brearley84 "the club arent interested unless they actually win the grand final and thats coming from the very top in ken davy

i dont agree.'"

Lack of ambition more like. They way the Club is being run and the lack of marketing is a worry. Have we peaked and are not prepared to speculate due to poor crowds . Will be interesting how many season tickets are sold.

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lack of marketing is down to poor finances.

poor finances due to poor crowds

any idea's on how to boost the crowds significantly to what we need to just break even? never mind to make a profit in order to improve marketing etc

vicious circle.

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being in the concept would be a good way to start marketing the club for starters

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then we have to meet the criteria that the RFL set out?

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Quote: meast "lack of marketing is down to poor finances.

poor finances due to poor crowds

any idea's on how to boost the crowds significantly to what we need to just break even? never mind to make a profit in order to improve marketing etc

vicious circle.'"


More of a downward spiral I would say meast.

As for ideas, should the well paid people running the club, not be the ones with those.

As it happens I do have an idea. icon_thumb.gif Why not do a Bradford bulls style of ( Living beyond our means) let rip with everything we have got and everything we have not got.

If it works we will be a top club for a few years ( or a long time if the crowds come back) if it doesn't well It's probably better than a slow lingering decline.

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yeah lets put the club in jeopardy, a club that is where it is because of the hard work of everyone from the chairman to the fans,for the sake of a couple of pieces of silverware?
no thanks, i enjoy watching MY team, i enjoy watching MY team with friends and family as i have done for years, if i wanted to see teams lifting trophies every year i would have supported wigan or widnes and then changed allegiance to bradford or leeds.

as much as i would love to see us win a major trophy i would rather keep the club.

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Quote: meast "yeah lets put the club in jeopardy, a club that is where it is because of the hard work of everyone from the chairman to the fans,for the sake of a couple of pieces of silverware?
no thanks, i enjoy watching MY team, i enjoy watching MY team with friends and family as i have done for years, if i wanted to see teams lifting trophies every year i would have supported wigan or widnes and then changed allegiance to bradford or leeds.

as much as i would love to see us win a major trophy i would rather keep the club.'"


Very commendable too Meast, as I have said your support does you credit, I would say you are very well suited to YOUR club, but Mr Davy wants my money just as much as yours, Yours is safely in the coffers, and will be whatever the teams fortunes.
Those couple of pieces of silverware you dismiss as no more than something it would be nice to win, could put 2/3 thousand people on the gates, which is what I thought the aim was, and the brutal truth is that it makes no difference whether those fans are New fans. or were among the 300, Their money is worth the same.

You say, don't lets do anything that puts YOUR club in jeopardy, The message that comes out of the club constantly, is that the club IS in jeopardy and can't survive unless the fan base increases, So what's the solution , watch the numbers decline, keep pleading for people to go watch, and Wait and see, Seems to me your idea is no better than mine, and a lot less exiting.

It's easy enough to Say look where Bradford are now, See what their spending has done for them, Well Bradford are now where Huddersfield have been for the biggest part of the last 60 years, so not a lot to crow about really, The difference is that they have had a lot of great years, they have lifted a lot of these Trophies, that mean so little to you.

Just MO but I would bet on them being back, and I reckon they would be over the Moon to have those 20.000 glory supporters again, and the Trophies as well. If or when that happens and the Bulls shirts once again appear all over Huddersfield, that just like before will be the Bulls fault for poaching our fans.

If the Giants can't capitalise on the fact that . Bradford, Wakey and Halifax are at this time , Shall we say lesser clubs, then they will never make it

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Quote: meast "then we have to meet the criteria that the RFL set out?'"


or the one ken davy has set out instead

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Quote: r-d "As I've said on the other thread we're not ready . Not been negative or giants bashing but I think It's short sighted that this one off game would do much more for the clubs fortunes, in an ideal world we'd show case Huddersfield & the giants brand, have a packed JS stadium for a game worthy of its title, I'd love nothing more, but I don't think we're there yet .a few more years & hopefuly a trophy b4 we should run out for this1, We've come a long way and making steady progress'"


Well said.

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Quote: FlexWheeler "Except they haven't decided there's only 3 teams that matter to them. It's just due to leeds winning everything, they were left with a problem. Being as huddersfield turned it down last year, and the no doubt larger attendance saints would produce, they've gone with saints.

Maybe if huddersfield hadn't done their usual playoff choking act they'd have qualified on merit, but instead you blame the big bad RFL rather than yourselves. A lack of personal responsibility is a losers attitude, which is typical of huddersfield.

Maybe rather than blaming the RFL, you use this as motivation for next season. To drive you on, to make sure you actually have some success and then qualify for it on merit.'"


And do you believe hand on heart that Leeds got the LLS and GF on merit, or more that it was gifted to you by the officials leaned on by the RFL. Penalties given and not given benefitted Leeds at Huddersfield, and that is not just said by me but by journalists and pundits alike (can`t all be wrong ). And the same with the GF with McGuire`s knock on. Also pulled to bits by the journos, cost Wigan.
Going further back when Leeds were at our place earlier in the season, Huddersfield were leading 24-22 and Leeds were attacking the Huddersfield line, last play the ball, and he penalises Huddersfield for going early. But replaying the incident all Huddersfield players were feet on the line when the ball was played. (another stitch up ) of course Leeds leveled at 24 - 24. Is it all just luck ????
So would you say that Leeds are well in front of us as you just scraped the game at your place late on. I know you skinned us in the CC as we did not get off the bus (same at Wigan).
But overall there is nowt in us games could go either way.

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Quote: Giantscorpio "And do you believe hand on heart that Leeds got the LLS and GF on merit, or more that it was gifted to you by the officials leaned on by the RFL. Penalties given and not given benefitted Leeds at Huddersfield, and that is not just said by me but by journalists and pundits alike (can`t all be wrong ). And the same with the GF with McGuire`s knock on. Also pulled to bits by the journos, cost Wigan.
Going further back when Leeds were at our place earlier in the season, Huddersfield were leading 24-22 and Leeds were attacking the Huddersfield line, last play the ball, and he penalises Huddersfield for going early. But replaying the incident all Huddersfield players were feet on the line when the ball was played. (another stitch up ) of course Leeds leveled at 24 - 24. Is it all just luck ????
So would you say that Leeds are well in front of us as you just scraped the game at your place late on. I know you skinned us in the CC as we did not get off the bus (same at Wigan).
But overall there is nowt in us games could go either way.'"


I don't think there is an awful lot between the two teams, but what is missing from the Huddersfield team is clearly pretty important. The bit about a conspiracy is cringeworthy and just plain wrong.

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