2 major finals in 4 years also helps with the 2012 franchise application. although i would like Shakie to stay in super league enjoy the nervous times in 2011.

Add to that that the RFL have now said that Toulouse don't have meet he same criteria as the rest of the Championship teams, that Lewis has said that the numbers in Superleague will not be increased and that Crusaders have now got a Stadium meeting the criteria means that 1 or (most likely) 2* teams will have their licences taken off them. (*Otherwise the heartlands championship clubs will be up in arms over broken agreements)

Salford, Cas and Wakie all have stadiums planned but not one of them have a brick in the ground. Wakie are still playing catch-up to the others and I think they are still at the public consultation phase (from reading TRBs SWAG comment) which puts them at the back of the pack.

Unless something drastic happens to an SL club then I cannot see the RFL getting rid of both Wakie and Cas therefore Salford and one other from Wakie and Cas are my expectations to receive their marching orders. If everything is equal between Cas and Wakie what do you go by? Historical success?

i think Wakey know deep down unless they have some form of building going on or win a major trophy they are gone !!
the RFL more or less said so when giving out the franchise's - shame really cos i love the Wakey games but they've only themselves to blame !

Any reason why we should be favourites,

You finished higher in the table than us alst year, considered to have a better squad, have a unbelievable record over us???

I agree with most of that post, but having only themselves to blame? I'm sure that if it was up to the fans, they'd have a new stadium.

We've got a fair few injuries to key players, we aren't firing on all cylinders yet, previous seasons results and league tables count for nothing and added to that you've had a few good results and a good start to the season, and you are at home.

Thats my reasoning anyway, a cracking tight match and bearing all this in mind, Wakey should be starting as slight favourites but I'm hoping we come home with the bacon, but a rare Wakey win could be on the cards.

Yes Jo I can read perfectly as you well know, but I cant help feeling that you were trying to guild the lily somewhat by including those two trophies you won in the lower leagues. After all I am sure I dont have to remind you that we have not been allowed to take part in those said comps because of the circumstances which I wont dwell on for your benefit

Fwiw it might suprise to know that a lot of Wakey fans were gutted when you lost both finals', and I am sure there will be a lot of Wakey fans would be just as proud as you if we are ever lucky or good enough to get there. This year for us is a good a time as any to win the cc luck prevailing with the draw so dont be putting all your money on the Giants just yet, save a couple of bob for good old Wakey

I meant the club itself not the fans obviously !