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Quote: GIANT DAZ "Of course Ken can, but only he and the rest of the board can, the coach can't, the fans can't.....my point was we don't know what constitutes doing a good or bad job from the board's point of view, they may be happy with the job that's been done based on what they've set out, off the field rather than on it.

I have no idea what targets are set out to the MD and whether or not he's achieving them.

Personally i would welcome a change myself just to see if it does help improve things on the field'"


Well as you say Daz, we have no idea, But i would have thought what constitutes a good job at a S league club is success on the field, If the success we have is satisfactory to the Board it just reinforces the view that a state of apathy exists at the club from top down and Rugby is of secondary importance.
In life failure is not generally rewarded, In League we get rid of players regarded as failures for whatever reason, same with coaches, conditioners whatever, What about the people that set these failures on, They seem to be immune from any consequences, For me as an example, Giving tickets away at half price is demonstrating failure, It is just trying to pay people to accept second rate because It's cheap, Well the reality is you have to entertain them, In this day and age there are so many things to do with your leisure time, people won't turn up to watch Dross no matter how cheap it is.
That always seems to be the way at the Giants, throw some money at it and pray it works, But it's not working and it hasn't worked since N Brown, The whole atmosphere around the Giants just shout's Loser, I hate to say this but so far RS looks no better that PA was, and far from improving we are just treading water, Still everybody is getting paid and in the comfort zone , why rock the boat, we can always blame everything on the players " also in the comfort zone " and they seem to be replaced regularly with no noticeable difference.

There have to be some decent people in the club, Perhaps in the wrong jobs, How many of them have a League background ?How many really care about League as long as they get paid, I get to know nothing " unlike some on here " but i know what i see, and what i see just says, All down hill from here.

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I agree to a point about on the field but for all we know Super League survival may be the one and only target these days, matchday corporate stuff may be making enough money to cover the low crowds or cheap tickets, i know the club have said this area of the club has never been as good.

Unless we are told what gets discussed at board level we will never know what is deemed as 'successful' either way the fans have their own views which inevitably will probably not be the same, we want to watch top players winning trophies in front of big crowds while playing brilliant rugby, the board people may just want to make enough money to get by?

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Quote: GIANT DAZ "I agree to a point about on the field but for all we know Super League survival may be the one and only target these days, matchday corporate stuff may be making enough money to cover the low crowds or cheap tickets, i know the club have said this area of the club has never been as good.

Unless we are told what gets discussed at board level we will never know what is deemed as 'successful' either way the fans have their own views which inevitably will probably not be the same, we want to watch top players winning trophies in front of big crowds while playing brilliant rugby, the board people may just want to make enough money to get by?'"


All that has a ring of truth about it DAZ but if true what does it say about the clubs regard for the fans, It just says fill yer boots while you can, No wonder people don't turn up, It just looks like Sky pays the players, the fans just keep the gravy bowl topped up for the staff. And if the corporate stuff is enough, Why bother with the Rugby at all, might as well grow Rhubarb on the pitch, be just as entertaining watching it grow, Bit rough on Town though.

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Maybe we should try and get some other loaded investors interested and get some more capital into the club and try as Koukash has done to buy in top players.I do not know who would be interested though after watching the dismal fare that has been dished up this and last season so far.Its a shame after all the years I have watched Fartown/Giants I am trying to find excuses to go to the game as I find it quite sole destroying to watch.I know the players give their best and try hard but we seem so far behind everyone now and it can only end one way if its not redressed quickly icon_beat.gif .

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Quote: Waterloo Winger "Maybe we should try and get some other loaded investors interested and get some more capital into the club and try as Koukash has done to buy in top players.I do not know who would be interested though after watching the dismal fare that has been dished up this and last season so far.Its a shame after all the years I have watched Fartown/Giants I am trying to find excuses to go to the game as I find it quite sole destroying to watch.I know the players give their best and try hard but we seem so far behind everyone now and it can only end one way if its not redressed quickly
I really don't think there is anyone at the club, either on the playing and coaching side or on the board who is either capable or has the inclination to sort it, Maybe DAZ is right and rugby doesn't matter, as long as they all get paid.

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thewlis is more teflon than Dupont why ken keeps him only he knows . As for Stone he cant even motivate the team i would like to see all the first team coaching staff go and start again . the squad is just about good enough to stay put if the get there act togather but what i have seen going down could be for the best as we could off load the trash we have signed

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If Thewis has a remit from the directors of managed decline he is hitting every target sign championship players from a broken club reduce crowds, non existent marketing, lack of goodwill in the town, get support down to 2k so we only have to open 1 stand he is hitting every target. The success of HTAFC has brought him more into focus and he now has nowhere to hide. Like a lot of people I'm not sure Stone can do it but we are now 6 games and counting and if things don't improve we need to escape again and then properly rebuild from top down

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Couldn't agree more.
When the Rhinos got hammered by Cas, Hetherington announced a Top to Bottom review of all aspects at the Rhinos on and off the pitch.
Look what's happened since..
Any such suggestion at the Giants? Course not - all seems well in the Ivory Tower.
Make no mistake, the Giants are paddling toward the waterfall at a rapid rate of knots.

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Spot on . The lack of response is frightening for those of us who care about where the club is heading. Most of us could see it in October. I can only come to the conclusion that Ken is happy with the shambles or if not doesnt know what to do.

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Quote: djhudds "Thewlis ineptitude goes back years he told brown not to resign or he wouldn't get paid out, sure board didn't ask him to do that, and before anyone says how do you know, I was there and have seen his ineptitude for years'"


that was another classic that the giants got wrong


keeping a coach after hes signed for another club d040.gif

i agree , thewlis should have gone last season

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What has thewlis got on ken and board of directors? How can anyone perform so poorly at Their job and be bomb proof? Poor signings, long contracts for injury prone players, the mason debacle, refusing Anderson resignation only to sack him few weeks later and give him 70k pay off, and if you are telling me he is fulfilling the wishes of the board then we are f****d

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Quote: djhudds "What has thewlis got on ken and board of directors? How can anyone perform so poorly at Their job and be bomb proof? Poor signings, long contracts for injury prone players, the mason debacle, refusing Anderson resignation only to sack him few weeks later and give him 70k pay off, and if you are telling me he is fulfilling the wishes of the board then we are f****d'"


You can add losing Jake Connor to that list too.

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List could be endless mate
Wanting to take 10k fine rather than run reserve team years back
Wanting to forfeit last years academy game in Catalan to save money
The Connor debacle was another embarrassing moment , low balled jake and then got him to sign without his agent present

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thewlis seems to be bombproof at hudds, is he davys best mate?

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