Go back a few weeks to the win after wigan and the draw v leeds.... we were all in love with the Giants!

hope we see a performance like the above next week now...seems we only get up for the so called big teams

as i said sometimes the opposition is better than us and beats us, that happened last night, yes we were poor and lost to a team that had lost it's previous 5 games.
why do we always need to find a blame source and saying things aren't right etc, we don't have a divine right to win games,we have to earn it, we didn't do that last night, credit to the opposition they did.
let's just hope we turn up next week and earn the 2 points.

let's be realistic, we aren't a bad team, other teams are going to raise their game against us, and we took a lot of teams by surprise last year, that element of surprise is gone this year.
i'm fairly sure this one bad defeat won't make or break our season.

Maybe PA should play headmaster and have em write out 100 lines Martin

First up let me congratulate Catalans. They showed skill, enthusiasm and commitment in bucket loads tonight. All this talk of 5 losses didn't fool me - 4 of them were away for a start and we all know how strong they are at home.

Paul Anderson's comments on BBC Sport website sum it up perfectly.

We were out enthused.

We lost the collision and consequently gave away penalties by trying to slow the play down by laying on and by having our hand on the ball in the tackle. Some of our defense out wide was abysmal.

After 65 mins I was preparing a John Kearesque quote of 'We were lucky to get nil (nul?) points' (I've just had a Eurovision flashback there).

We missed both Micheal Lawrence for his superb defense and more importantly Shaun Lunt for his control around the ruck.

We showed what we can do going forward in the last ten when we have our minds on the job as Paul Anderson said.

Consistency is our problem at the moment - the only point Leeds have lost and Hull KR have gained this season is against us.

Interesting game next week with Wire - 2 sides struggling for consistency.

Lastly Danny Brough has not hit his straps this season but his forwards haven't given him the time and space unlike Luke Walsh whose forwards have done the business for him. He's frustrated and a frustrated Danny Brough is not a pretty sight as we all saw yesterday. He should have been binned by Richard Silverwood.

Teams raise their game against Leeds week in and week out but they raise their game higher to grind out the wins, people class them as a top team. On paper I would take our squad over theirs any day of the week but RL aint played on paper, long way to go but dont want a season of garbage till last 4 weeks then win the GF cos I pay to watch my team try to win everyweek and finish top of the pile.

All week in the Examiner there were articles about how tough it was going to be etc. They ended up believing it! They went there waiting to lose.

Yes, the video ref decision was a joke and yes, the French lad threw himself on the floor to get the penalty like he was a footballer. But we apparently knew we would get no favours from the officials so why did Brough spend all night crying at them?

We lack mongrel, as has been said, and we lack a leader of men when things are going against us. I've said the leader of men babble countless times now but we do. They are so few and far between though.

Very disappointing to watch that. Yes Catalan played well but we still beat ourselves. Eorl seems like he's lost a quid; he's looking so keen to get to ground. He seems to have forgotten he's meant to make some metres first.

I didn't look for scapegoats, just generalised what was wrong with the team overall, and I will take this opportunity to Credit Cats for playing to the conditions ref and rules to the line, however I still hold that this loss could make or break our season as one extra loss last year would have seen us all crying with sorrow rather than crying with joy as we did.
yes it was bound to be tough and Cats will beat other teams at home and probably away but for me we could and should have won that one.

Well said, Meast. We are a good side, we are a top side. We will come good. Perhaps, for whatever reason, we weren't mentally prepared for this game [I lost a badminton match a couple of weeks ago against opposition I should have won comfortably].

Let's face it, some people just prefer to moan rather than accept that you can't play at your best in every match [awaits torrents of complaints]. [I was sitting in a room of people watching the game and some did nothing but moan from minute 1. Whobetide Grix for his unsuccessful attempt in the free play - he was right royally castigated. Trouble was, the complainers still didn't know this rule change, they were simply looking for errors, not good play.]

However, I will close by agreeing that we didn't play well.

Leeds raise their game week in week out? Is that why they finished 5th [again] last season?

Let's remember that we scored the most points in SL last season and had the 3rd best defensive record. We will come good again.

To help get over this game I re watched the Leeds game! It helped lots! We are not consistent enough in our performances but everyone in any job has bad days!
It's the effort gauge we need to get closer together! Most would say we don't mind losing a game in which we put everything into but it's the lack of that is most frustrating!
We are a good team with brilliant potential but for me the three things that do my nut in is
Line speed, in defense we take two steps forward and stop allowing the players crash onto us. The crowd responds to aggressive defence and the opposition being hit hard quickly after the play the ball causes more issues than standing off them waiting for them to come to us!
Three massive props and they are receiving the ball flat footed, hit it at pace to break through! Koppy and taai attempt it more than the rest of the pack but don't receive the ball enough.
Running hard wardle and jerry are making more of a return than our big men, a winger and a are showing up the big lads at times

Overall I am not concerned but would have been nice to go into the wire game on the back if a convincing win!

It sounds like this was more a mentally lost game to me? Richard Silverwood said in the bar after the game that one of the times he pulled Danny Brough out for a chat was to tell him to have a word with our players and tell them to shut up arguing and bickering with each other and get on with the game. Now that's definitely not like us as we usually have a good changing room?

Quote: Ivor C&G Scarf "Leeds raise their game week in week out? Is that why they finished 5th [again] last season? '" Leeds didn't finish 5th again last season www.therhinos.co.uk/rugby/tables ... eason=2013 HTH

Quote: Ivor C&G Scarf "Leeds raise their game week in week out? Is that why they finished 5th [again] last season? '" Leeds didn't finish 5th again last season www.therhinos.co.uk/rugby/tables ... eason=2013 HTH

The game spoilt what was a cracking weekend unfortunately. We were simply not good enough, the players reactions at the end showed me enough to see it annoyed them too and they knew they had let the handful of us who'd spent our money going out there down big time..no individual is to blame, 1-17 were awful !!

Saturdays game was catalans only 2nd game at home this season, we all know they are hard to beat on their own patch and useless away... no wonder they have had a bad start.

as for us, we seem to start well and still end up with nothing...well apart from the LLS... if we start indifferent this season and come up trumps at the end for a change ill be happy