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Quote: jools "Oh and jerry has tweeted he looks like elephant man but will be ok in a couple of days.'"



Whoever did that too him should be banned for life. To have to leave the pitch early after getting a hat trick is bad enough but to be left looking like Ben Westwood is out of order

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Lol. Watched the "trylights" on SL fulltime. Couldn't really judge for the final try- it looked a very "flat" pass and on another day could easily have been given. Some question over Jerrys final try, but also the short pass to mathers in wakeys first try was dubious.
Our defence against wakey running from deep looked very shaky compared to our goal line defence last week- and I also thought we tried to go up the middle far too often, with fewer offloads and passes along the line. Hope Ta'ai and kopzcak play next week- thought mullally should have been given more game time as he looked very solid.

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That definitely was a get out of jail card played yesterday. We have to accept our luck and move on.

Need a good performance against Bradford

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Why, at 18 - 12, didn't we go for a drop goal instead of kicking to the corner?

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Quote: jools "Lol. Watched the "trylights" on SL fulltime. Couldn't really judge for the final try- it looked a very "flat" pass and on another day could easily have been given. Some question over Jerrys final try, but also the short pass to mathers in wakeys first try was dubious.
Our defence against wakey running from deep looked very shaky compared to our goal line defence last week- and I also thought we tried to go up the middle far too often, with fewer offloads and passes along the line. Hope Ta'ai and kopzcak play next week- thought mullally should have been given more game time as he looked very solid.'"


Compare Tim Smiths pass for the no-try with Luke Robinsons for McGillvary's 3rd try. It's easy enough to do as in both cases the man passing the ball was pretty much stood on the 10 metre line. I would say both were about 2 metres forward but one was given and one not.
Having said that, Wakey had chances but made too many mistakes IMO and you can't afford to waste chances against anyone or you'll get beat.

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It's been put up before, but a timely reminder explaining the rl'Forward Pass'rl rule.

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phew to me we got away with that, we played some very dumb rugby the last 20 minutes, even in the last minute we were on wakeys line and tried playing rugby instead of closing the game down for us to kick on we have to learn to do this closing the game down lark, i agree with stella i didnt think we were outplayed in fact at 18 - 8 we were cruising to victory until jerrys injury, which wakey exploited and our lack of closing down let them back in it.

Just seen the final pass again and to me it was forward, at the time thought it was ok thankfully silverwood gave it for once, thought amor was superb for wakey and our support was great nearer 1500 mark i would have said, end of the day its 2 more points won against a good side for me.

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Quote: Ivor C&G Scarf "Why, at 18 - 12, didn't we go for a drop goal instead of kicking to the corner?'"


i thought that would of been a good option too.

think brough was injured for the last 25mins he wasnt involved much and shoved out to the wing.

examiner says near 2k giants fan there yesterday.

thought patrick had his best game of the season for us so far... he needed that, some real strong runs.

our defence won us the game AGAIN.

turning the ball over very cheaply... and fielden has to be one of the main culprits im afraid, silly offloads at the wrong time that just go to the floor or end up a knock on, trying to impress too much maybe

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Fielden offloaded once straight to the opposition but then so did Faiumu and Chan and some of the passing from the halves was terrible.

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Quote: Fordy "Compare Tim Smiths pass for the no-try with Luke Robinsons for McGillvary's 3rd try. It's easy enough to do as in both cases the man passing the ball was pretty much stood on the 10 metre line. I would say both were about 2 metres forward but one was given and one not.
Having said that, Wakey had chances but made too many mistakes IMO and you can't afford to waste chances against anyone or you'll get beat.'"


You can't directly compare - first of all the camera angles can skew things and secondly can't compare the speed that the passing players were travelling and hence the part momentum played.

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faiumu did a great pass out of the tackle for grix who was backing up and for once got the ball!! great try.

would love to know our completion rate yesterday??

its a good job we work hard for each other in defence

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Completion rate 70%, wakeys 60%

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Quote: jools "Completion rate 70%, wakeys 60%'"


good job they were just as bad as us then with the ball!!

really awful scrappy game to watch

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Good close game, good support from you guys. Thought Luke Robinson was your best player. Grix was very good also. Was very pleased that our lads fronted up. Some good tries scored and some great defence on show. Only downer was 21 penalties. Took this from another site which sums up the ref situation for me :-

` We all know that the refs job is very very difficult. I hate that all we seem to hear from fans, coaches, media etc is about how poor a ref was, how the ref cost us the game etc etc. My starting point is that refs are going to make mistakes, forward passes for example must be very very difficult when the ref is stood in front of the play. I accept that refs will make mistakes and thats ok, we cannot expect them to be perfect. I also do not beleive that they are ` bent ` , if I thought for one second that they were then there is no point in following the sport.

I think the vast majority of the problems are caused by the holding down and not standing square ` laws `. I have watched every single SL tv game this season and watched all Wakefields games live. I watched the World Club Cup game which was managed very well by Ben Thaler, it was a great game because Thaler did not get involved with blowing up for holding down or not standing square. As a result the Leeds players soon stopped trying to milk a penalty and just got on with it, they were great to watch. Was Thaler told to ref the game like this because every other game I have watched this season has been refereed in a totaly different maner. I would say they have been spolit, because we are seeing 20 penalties for holding down or not standing square. Players are acting to get penalties, players are getting high fives and back slaps from their team mates when they win a holding down penalty. It is spoiling the game.

Refs need help, basicaly they could blow up 90 % of play of the balls if they wanted, so I say they should watch the World Cup Game and be told to let holding down go unless it is one of those very obvious situations where typically a fullback lays on a winger for 5 seconds waiting for his team mates to get back, never penalise not standing square. This would reduce the number of pens per game from 20 plus down to 5 ish. Players would stop trying to win penalties and have to play nore rugby. It would also give us more chance against the Aussies, it is very rare to see a penalty for holding down in the NRL, so they have to be creative away from the ruck area.We need our SL teams to stop relying on winning the penalty count and improve their creative Rugby skills.

Poor old Ricahrd Silverwood made a few mistakes on Sunday, and thats ok, he was doing his best, he was not biased towards one side or the other, but he did give 21 penalties, at least 15 were for holding down and not one of those would have been given by Thaler in Fridays game, or the CC final or the Grand final. These 15 penalties encouraged players to play act at the ruck and got both sets of supporters on the refs back and make the ref the focal point. Can we just play Rugby, as a fan I am not bothered if a player take 1 second or 3 seconds to play the ball, but now we get fans baying for a penalty to be given at every tackle. We also need to stop the acting halfs running directly at a marker in order to win a penalty, if the acting half decides to run at a marker who is half a yard not square, so what, he should be encouaged to pass the ball rather than win a penalty.

Lets make life easier for our refs. `

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Quote: Durham Giant "Oh and jerry has tweeted he looks like elephant man but will be ok in a couple of days.'"



Whoever did that too him should be banned for life. To have to leave the pitch early after getting a hat trick is bad enough but to be left looking like Ben Westwood is out of order'"



This happened when one of our players kicked forward and Jerry tried to ankle tap (although a little late in my opinion) and he caught the trailing boot in the face. Though there two incidents where we kicked through and you didn't challenge for the ball and opted to take the manillegally the second time we hacked the ball on and your man blatantly took our man out. Neither was punished but it was that sort of day from a ref who was one sided for most of the game.

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