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Couldnt agree more with the comments above. I support both clubs and believe me a major factor in Giants crowds declining by about 2k is tied up with the stadium share issue. A lot of Town people who are also Huddersfield sports fans and importantly major business owners will not support the Giants which is a real shame. The facts are Football is bigger and especially at the moment the gap is massive. It would be far better if we all got on but sadly i cant see it happening and the Giants are the losers.

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I'm not a town fan but town fans need to remember the animosity which exists between the fans was created by their fans

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Over the shares issue when they made it personal and stirred up hatred for the Giants.

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still no answer as to why the giants should have to move their games..

no fixture clash!!!!!! icon_frustrated.gif

anyone got an answer? dont give me the possible game cancellation tosh

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Quote: brearley84 "still no answer as to why the giants should have to move their games..

no fixture clash!!!!!!
to give the pitch more time to recover its pretty obvious town have a chance on promotion so want the pitch as good as can be.

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yeh can see the pitch been a whole lot better for an extra 24hrs

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every little helps some people just moan for the sake of moaning on here

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yes nature of a forum

in this particular case rightly so too for reasons going back through this thread

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Quote: rounding92 "to give the pitch more time to recover its pretty obvious town have a chance on promotion so want the pitch as good as can be.'"


Rubbish, Town have been promoted 2/3 times already in the time we have shared the stadium and I cannot ever recall them demanding we moved games on those occasions either, unless there is a valid reason, and I will be asking our board, this has been done then to me it is a case of the football club just throwing their weight around and being awkward for the sake of it !!

That pitch hasn't been a problem for 22 years so why suddenly decide it needs more time just to please th football lot ?

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Quote: GIANT DAZ "Rubbish, Town have been promoted 2/3 times already in the time we have shared the stadium and I cannot ever recall them demanding we moved games on those occasions either, unless there is a valid reason, and I will be asking our board, this has been done then to me it is a case of the football club just throwing their weight around and being awkward for the sake of it !!

That pitch hasn't been a problem for 22 years so why suddenly decide it needs more time just to please th football lot ?'"


My educated guess would be that Town haven't actually played any football on the grass since the Steve Bruce era (1999-2000?). It's all been in the air.

Now there is the chance of the Holy Grail and Town's game is all about possession and knocking it around on the floor the state of the pitch become more important.

That extra 24 hours will give those groundsmen the chance to get around the whole of the pitch with their forks making sure it's like a bowling green.

Every little helps.

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Quote: TBC "My educated guess would be that Town haven't actually played any football on the grass since the Steve Bruce era (1999-2000?). It's all been in the air.

Now there is the chance of the Holy Grail and Town's game is all about possession and knocking it around on the floor the state of the pitch become more important.

That extra 24 hours will give those groundsmen the chance to get around the whole of the pitch with their forks making sure it's like a bowling green.

Every little helps.'"


Pretty much.

Although there were spells of good football in 2009/2010. But yes, it used to spend more time in the clouds than on the grass! icon_biggrin.gif

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Helps the football club, how do we benefit from it ? we now have to play the lowest attended home game on a flaming Wednesday night with not a cat in hell's chance of attracting any casual fans as well as disrupting the plans of existing season ticket holders who may not be able to make it - We've done this not once but twice in the space of 6 weeks !!

Sorry but i couldn't give a flying doodah whether the pitch is like a bowling green for Huddersfield Town, i'm bothered about Huddersfield Giants fans being messed about - did they move games for us to make sure the pitch had extra recovery time when we we're pushing for Grand Final's etc ?? did they chuff and they would have told us where to go if it was suggested !!

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Quote: GIANT DAZ "Over the shares issue when they made it personal and stirred up hatred for the Giants.'"


There's quite a lot more to it than that, and Ken Davy has to take some of the blame for initially refusing to communicate and open a dialogue. But yes, it all got very silly....

Ask yourself what you would do in this chain of events; Giants go into admin and are purchased by Dean Hoyle.
- Dean Hoyle then transfers the Giants share of the stadium into a company called 'Huddersfield Town football club' in secret for £2. Later to be renamed.
- Dean Hoyle then alters the rental agreement so that HTFC are paying less than they were and the Giants are paying more than they were to KSDL.
- Dean Hoyle then takes out a big loan against Huddersfield Giants to pay for some work on the stadium.

That's just a couple of things, but surely enough for you to ask a few questions? If your questions were continually ignored, met with silence and eventually palmed off - what would you then do?

I'm not really wishing to rake over old wounds but there really were 2 sides to this whole thing.

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As i said at the time, that was between the businessmen involved and their legal teams to deal with not the vigilante mobs we saw taking it upon themselves to lay down threats and brainwash other's into doing the same, not to mention bad mouthing the Giants club and fans etc.

You're correct in saying there were 2 sides, they we're Ken Davy - a businessman Vs Dean Hoyle - another businessman, problem was Hoyle had an army behind him who threatened and bullied to get their own way !!

As i, and hundreds of other Giants fans said at the time, albeit from Hoyle's army trying to make us turn against Ken for what he did then resorting to name calling etc when we didn't, It was a matter for the business people to sort out NOT the fans of either club.
Half of the Town fans i knew had no idea what Ken had supposedly done but happily joined in the vendetta against him.
There were people who supported both who stopped watching the Giants because they chose to side with Hoyle's army and join in the crusade, swearing never to return till that 'crook' was gone etc.

In business there are deals done everyday that won't be what the customers won't like should they find out, Hoyle himself has probably done some dodgy dealings and left others displeased in his time to build his business up to get to a position to take over a Football club, but not all customers take it to a personal level like this was.

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Quote: GIANT DAZ "Helps the football club, how do we benefit from it ? we now have to play the lowest attended home game on a flaming Wednesday night with not a cat in hell's chance of attracting any casual fans as well as disrupting the plans of existing season ticket holders who may not be able to make it - We've done this not once but twice in the space of 6 weeks !!

Sorry but i couldn't give a flying doodah whether the pitch is like a bowling green for Huddersfield Town, i'm bothered about Huddersfield Giants fans being messed about - did they move games for us to make sure the pitch had extra recovery time when we we're pushing for Grand Final's etc ?? did they chuff and they would have told us where to go if it was suggested !!'"


I'm not saying it's right or wrong - just an educated guess as to the reasons Town asked for the change.

I agree that it's not good that season ticket holders are being messed about especially as Friday was marketed as 'Giants night'.

The Catalans game was on Thursday before the request from Town - was that initially moved from Friday to Thursday and if so why?

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